@pyrofn: ngl I've never really been impressed by Sentry's physicals. All his really good feats come from the same fight and that was when he was DSS. I feel like Gladiator and Hyperion have better outlier feats than him, especially in speed
This just sounds like a way to get around the fact that Superman wasn't beating Thor without trouble. Both were clearly doing everything they can to beat each other down. If people are going to cope with Superman "holding back" or "not using his full strength" then the same exact thing can be said for Thor. There's no getting past that Superman struggled with Thor, whether people like it or not.
Also no, JLA/Avengers is canon.
I never said Superman was holding back against Thor, tf? I said in character he holds back until he absolutely realizes there's no other option but to put his opponent down and even then he still wouldn't use 100% of his strength, this was literally my argument for why he would lose, not win. You also completely and conveniently ignored my argument regarding the fact that Superman utilized his power set WAY more efficiently against other people at Thor/Superman's caliber in the past, and going by one fight that happened almost 2 decades ago that literally only took place to showcase the powerhouses of both companies' heroes isn't reasonable or sensible at all. You also ignored my point about how Superman has better feats than Thor. Also the fact that it's canon only hurts your stance on this thread even more considering since the crossover Superman's had multiple story arcs where he's trained to use his powers more efficiently and break his mental barriers to the point where he takes out enemies that stomp the entire JL roster. If you want to stick with the argument that "Thor gave Superman trouble in the past" you're basically saying "Thor lost to Superman when he barely had any training and had no idea on how to actually use 100% of his power"....that's an awesome argument
Zero Year hit the spot for me. explains why Bruce actually meddles in public appearances, how/why he can't allow himself to experience a personal life, great art, GREAT ART, and not to mention it made the Riddler a very dangerous villain which other writers don't really do