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@ambaryerno: I agree nyx logically I think would've had to happen sometime after innocence lost or half way into target X because target X is really unavoidable it's such a big part of her history much like nyx because that showed her being more humanized by meet kiden nixon in nyx and having laura escape from that life of prostitution and learning to open up and to feel .

but I think humanizing Laura more didn't happen until innocence lost and target X with her losing control to the trigger and taking her mothers life before they could run away and start a new life and that in a lot of ways losing her mother I think in a way explains why she ended up being a prostuite to be honest by losing all that she had a a mother....

like I said I kinda avoid nyx for the most part it's the only book she's appeared in I rarely read because she's just kinda not really in it that much and she's like a mute but in connection to innocence lost it makes more sense on how nyx works.

And when target X happened it fleshed the rest of her origin that hadn't been explored yet such as kimura who honestly comes of as more of an obsessive stalker lol....

But with finding and encountering debby and megan she found a family again and she learned to open up to feel to love to be a human and I really hope that they reintroduce them eventually in all new wolverine as they did bring back kimura recently and Taylor has expressed that he'd like to bring many dangling plot threads such as them seeing laura again for the first time in years.

And lastly I wanted to say along with debby and megan and encountering and meeting logan for the first time and joining the X-men it's really humanized and like that over the years writers from Craig Kyle and Chris Yost to Marjorie lui to bendis to hopeless to tom taylor i love how they've really been trying to move her past her dark and humanizing her and despite the tragedies and the the ones closest to her that are and despite being created as a weapon she has learned to be a human to love to care to have feelings and emotions and to rise above it all.

And despite how at times I feel logan was never really father material I think he in a lot of ways led to that humanization having a father figure and mentor in logan and I really hope as time passes we'll find out exactly why laura chose to become the all new wolverine in her fathers absence.

Yes I do she was firstly introduced in X-men evolution back in 2003 I think which was a Cartoon then they had her appear in nyx in 2003 then uncanny X-men for the first time confusingly nyx and uncanny X-men was her first published appearances but apparently her timeline starts with innocence lost which is her origin story which came out in 2005 then nyx actually happens then target X which actually came out in late 2006 and uncanny X-men 450 which was her first published appearance in the X-men but nyx was actually her first comic appearance back in 2003.

So like her time line is kinda confusing but that's what happened was innocence lost came first then nyx then target X then uncanny X-men 450 which I think she stayed in uncanny X-men until new X-men 23 happened and then she joined X-force and so on everyone knows what happens after that from her X-23 solo series from Marjorie lui which is amazing and then avengers academy then avengers arena then joined bed is all new X-men in issue 20 I think it was it's been awhile since I read it .....

Then Logan legacy and wolverines happened which much like avengers arena was mostly hit or miss....

And now she's back with the all new X-men and has taken over as the all new wolverine in her fathers absence.

so its kinda kinda confusing her timeline at least in regards to nyx I kinda avoid nyx because even though it's such a big part of her history she's kinda nonexistent mostly within the story and she like never speaks at all she's like a mute through the series...

So in way yes that's what I meant by having a decade to develop as a character before taking over as the all new wolverine.

@JamesSpiring: doubtfufil web warriors as basically been showing that the mc2 universe was one of the many along with spider gwens universe that were recreated by reed and future foundation after secret wars.

Uncle Ben the one from spider verse is looking after benji as grandfather since the mc2 Peter was killed in spider verse the only thing that is a mystery now is what happened to mayday her and billy spider man uk seemingly got killed in web warriors issue five.....

Either that or it seems that they did or they're trapped it would be beyond fucked up if that's how we see the last of both especially mayday she's one of my favorite spider men/women to carry on the mantle and for marvel to just kill them off like that like wtf.....

Hopefully they keep Logan 616 original Logan dead for another two more years it's only been a year and a half or if they really wanted they will probably deage old man logan as pretty much everyone is aware it's inevitable that Logan the original Logan or if they deage Logan instead it's like inevitable that he'll be back but for now I think Laura should be given more time as the new wolverine I'm really glad after 12 years of developing her character which has been nothing short of amazing and she's finally getting her due which is long overdue and I'm glad that marvel hasn't given up on her character she's one the best new characters to come out and have been created in the past decade.

The exposure and by having more and more people be more and more aware of her character and pushing her on top of all this I really hope that when Logan does return she won't be regulated to X-men books like she was in the past having her headline her own solo book the first since 2012 and giving her the all new wolverine title perhaps despite who might object maybe it'll bring her character to new heights and more and more people will be aware of her character again it's long overdue.

Like I can honestly say that as long as said title is written amazingly but the art is for the most part not the best which I think thus far much like all new all different avengers both have to me been written amazingly but the art isn't the right fit at all and it's like when you have a new artist draw the panels it's like wow it really changes so much and makes a difference.

I don't know if I'm only in this but like I've always loved uncanny avengers ever since its inception back in 2012 and I've been really loving the all new all different relaunch thus far if the title but I'll be honestly stegman when he was doing the art from issues 1-8 it was honestly at times really hard to read I feel like the new artist really should love been the artist all along the style suits the script better and the title much better is a similar thing with all new all different avengers I really love that title but the art is really difficult to read through I wish issue sevens artist would return the artwork on that issue was amazing.....

I hate it when the title and scripting is amazing but the art feels so off and doesn't seem to work with the script...

I blame slott for ruining Felicia's character..... Ever since superior spider man him and marvel have been trying and trying to make her a villain and I just don't like it I wish they'd return her to her anti hero days before superior spider man like everything with black cat was great until superior spider man and with Maria I was hoping before pleasant hill that marvel would finally make Maria likable and make her a hero but more and more it's like they want to make her more and more unlikeable she's still one of my favorite marvel characters and only time will tell what they'll be doing with her.....

There's many characters as of late that aren't really outright replacing said established character but instead filling in for them in their absence or fighting alongside the original version without outright replacing them as shown with Clint and Kate as the two Hawkeyes, Miles and Peter as the two main spider men, Steve and Sam as the two captain americas, old man logan and laura/X-23/all new wolverine as the two wolverines what they're doing makes all the sense in the world instead of outright replacing said characters you don't always need to create a new character from the ground up to tell really amazing and interesting stories like for example Kate works because Clint is okay with it and she's not replacing Clint as hawkeye and Laura works as being the new wolverine because of her connection to logan being his clone and daughter on top of the fact that she had 11 years to develop as a character as X-23.

This new wasp according to waid or someone else I forgot whose it was that said it in a interview but she isn't replacing Janet still I wish they'd use Janet more.... Janet is supposed to appear in uncanny avengers later this year she's still the original wasp.