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Why do you even argue with that guy? His entire argument is based on everything in the MCU being stronger than in the real world. Tank shells are stronger, 70mm rounds are smaller yet stronger, concrete is somehow stronger, titanium is stronger and a helicopter is somehow stronger/faster/heavier than the exact same one in real life. He’s clearly full of shit. There is nothing anywhere in any of those movies to indicate that any of that stuff is above the same IRL thing. If it can somehow be stronger, than it could also be weaker. Titanium is weaker because the tank shells are weaker in that universe. Concrete shatters and buckles because it is just weaker in the MCU. See, I can play that game too. It just makes no sense. The assumption should be that the inanimate object is the exact same as one IRL unless the movie itself says otherwise. And if they did say otherwise, they would be breaking the fourth wall and that would never happen. The 70mm tag on the computer screen was very obviously a mistake since the one depicted was nowhere near the same type of weapon nor did it to the damage that a 70mm round would do. This whole argument was just pretty funny.

Leo would stomp cap hard. Their physicals are pretty similar but Leo has leagues more training and skill. Plus he uses weapons designed to kill. Cap has been a super soldier and out of ice for about a year, there’s no way he has the training required to keep up with any of the turtles Who have been training in various martial arts for more than a decade. His skill is so ridiculously overblown on these forums it isn’t even funny. This is a mismatch.

Comparing a pillow to Godzilla? How does that even remotely make sense? Godzilla is stronger, more durable and has a much higher damage output than anything in the MCU outside of maybe the full gauntlet with stones. Even the power stone didn’t do as much damage as Godzilla on its own. Saying that Mjolnir would do anything to Godzilla when lesser beings stopped and destroyed it, is an NLF. And I don’t think some of you realize how large Godzilla is. Mjolnir wouldn’t be like a bullet piercing a human, it was be like a splinter going into your finger. Mjolnir has no feats of killing anything anywhere near the level of Godzilla. Saying otherwise is just absurd.

@decaf_wizard:

Ancient hominids used tools like spears, rocks and group tactics to kill prey and defend themselves from predators. Modern humans could do the same thing. Give this group Spears and the animals stand no chance. There might be human casualties, due to animal bloodlust, but the humans would win. This scenario requires the humans to fight with nothing but their bare hands. They all die.

Red has no on panel combat feats. Al wins in a spite match. The bundy family as a whole could beat most other television families. I can’t think of any that could beat them, but I’m sure there are some.

Some of these additions are kind of funny. And why is everyone bagging on Kimbo? He’d Beat the shit out of Jet Li and probably a couple others on this list.

The animals win low difficulty. The animals are bloodlusted but the humans aren’t. They would drop like flies. The wounds received from either of these animals would be far worse than any of them have ever experienced, and that’s just from casual hits, scratches or bites. They will fall back, and even if they tried to fight as a team, that plan would quickly fall apart as they take damage. I’ll never understand how anyone thinks that any single human could stand up to a raging silverback. They would literally one shot everyone on this list. The lion would then pounce on everyone that falls. There is a reason why rodeo clowns only distract the bull and wait for it to tire out. They also have places all around the ring to run and get to cover where the bull can’t reach them. A prime male lion would have no trouble at all with a bull. Imagine 300 lb Brock lesner running full speed at a 100 lb adult man and hitting him. What would happen? Yea, it wouldn’t end well for the little guy and it wouldn’t take more than one hit to drop him. That’s what this fight would be like. The sheer weight coming down on top of them would at least knock the wind out of them, opening them up for a killing blow. The smaller guys here would be like Lesner fighting a group of trained attack children. It wouldn’t be a challenge for him. Should have added Bob Sapp. Wasn’t he around 500 lbs? Also, the dude that plays the mountain. I still don’t think it would make much of a difference, but it would make the fight more interesting.

Preston should take this. The movie basically said it created a way to fight another person with a gun by calculating the odds of where they would shoot in order to avoid getting hit. He’s clearly well above human levels. He should be able to avoid more fire than anyone else here. And when the fight gets close up, he slaughters. Did you leave Wick off because he gets used a lot in these kinds of topics?

Neo and Superman stomp, probably spite. Neo has more skill than just about every comic book superhero combined outside of Blade and Batman. His physicals are close enough to Superman that he should even beat him based on skill alone. Either can solo.

Part of me hopes the next Superman is weaker, but part of me thinks that would be boring. They should have introduced the more powerful DC characters and villains along with him and Batman should have just stayed in his own universe.

Would be more fun if you give Surfer stronger or another couple allies, then had them fight thanos and darkseid at the same time.

I think they get to 4 pretty easily. They should win the majority at 4 and 5. I could see them beating Thanos, but I don’t think they take the majority.

@idevos: Fool? So apparently you concede and that’s why you throw insults? Some men are stronger than a baboon. The average human (including women and men), are not. The average human barely exercises. And no, chimps are not super soldiers. But a bloodlusted chimp would fodderize nearly any human. That doesn’t make them super soldiers. They are just more savage than most humans could deal with. It’s also an opponent no human trains to fight. Their fighting style is unlike anything you could predict because it would essentially be random. That doesn’t make them super soldiers. We have tools that allow us to easily deal with any other animal on the planet. Most animals won’t engage humans in combat anyways. And when an animal feels threatened, they are more often than not looking to escape even if they could win the battle. For animals, surviving to fight another day typically trumps a random act of violence. There are always easier meals waiting. Hence why I said that this really depends on whether the animals are bloodlusted or just acting like regular animals. Either way, the average human wouldn’t get past round 1 since the average human is an out of shape pussy with no combat experience. Animals fight and kill far more often than the average human. Keep the insults coming though. Makes you look like a great debater.

The hound is the only GOT character that might beat Bjorn, but he won’t win the majority.