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How Mel Gibson Could Improve The DCEU

The DC Extended Universe. One of the most talked about, controversial and hottest topics around the Internet and outside of it. Beginning with Man of Steel directed by Zack Snyder this cinematic universe was meant to be a launching point for shared interactions, stories and chronology that could bring the glorious scope of DC characters to life for generations to come. While the films and their methodology are still finding their footing so to speak and they take a look at plans for the future I believe they could use some help from directors who have a much grander and established foothold in story-telling and directorial style. In truth, I feel that it would be a treat if one man helped out Warner Brothers, given his staunch record of critical, financial and cinematic acclaim.

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Indeed I found this to be one of the best choices to help guide the DCEU and help them out so that they can be firm, staunch competitors with the MCU and hopefully tell better more coherent stories throughout each ensemble and solo film. Now, why Gibson you may ask?

1. Has An Excellent Understanding of Story Structure

Its no surprise that looking at Gibson's track record the man has a high prestige and accomplished field for movies. Not just from the standpoint as an actor, but as a director who can manage large scale films with emotion and visual gravitas. Far exceeding Warner Brothers current directors such as Zack Snyder and David Ayer, Mel Gibson has been in the business of film for decades now and by all accounts can be counted on to take the characters of the DC Universe to heights they haven't seen since Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy

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Mel could offer some very distinct and welcome flavor into the DCEU. And ultimately it wouldn't just extend to one film, but even several films as well. Braveheart is a film that while rife with historical inaccuracies almost perfectly encapsulates the tale of William Wallace and the struggle of a nation to win their freedom. Something that is very well missing from the DCEU is the personal struggle missing from the characters we follow. Whether it be to the fault of the writers or directors the films ask the audience to sympathize and grow with characters who just aren't endearing at all. Their conflict and lack of personal standing as they tackle their conflicts is almost devoid of any real emotion.

Compare the death of William Wallace, a man a warrior-poet so staunch in his love for his people and resolve that we as the viewers feel for him. A simple man who doesn't need a Christ allegory to be endearing at all.

And then compare it to the "Death of Superman" arguably one of the most iconic and well known standing story lines featuring one of the most iconic and beloved characters to ever exist. Theres no real emotion that can be felt because we don't grow with Cavill who by all accounts has had much more screen time and budget devoted to him than William Wallace and the film Braveheart as a whole. That is undoubtedly alarming. Especially for arguably the most well known superhero to exist.

We can very well see the difference in how Mel manages to portray a compelling protagonist opposed to other directors such as Zack Snyder and David Ayer who put emphasis on superficial visual spectacle, cheap, jumbled and inchorent story-telling and a lack of coherence for the supporting characters or protagonists.

Even take the story of Desmond Doss, during WWII as an example. Mel tells the story of REAL people in REAL scenarios as human beings. Not as godlike figures who are emotionally and mentally detached from the world around them such as Snyderman or murderers like Batfleck who have become demoralized and seek to kill other heroes based on lack of information or presumed moral background. While lacking some themselves

And the results speak for themselves.

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2. Is the Most Experienced and Accomplised Director/Actor Alongside Ben Affleck. Could Help Him Helm the DCEU and Guide it in the Right Direction to Relieve the Stress Ben Has Come to Face

Its no surprise that out of the numerous men and women working to help the DCEU that Ben Affleck has his hands full. Indeed, much like Mel Gibson he is a failry accomplished actor and director with decades of experience as a writer and helmer of his films. He has arguably the most experience out of anybody working for the DCEU, both as an actor and director as opposed to his co-workers like Zack Snyder, David Ayer, Henry Cavill and Jason Momoa.

Indeed both are men who are renowned for being talented in directorial works and acting.

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Could you imagine these two auteurs of film working together on characters we all know and love? I daresay it would be a spectacle and would assuredly inspire much more confidence in the DC Film's Brand than we currently have now. Two men of great experience helping to craft this universe? That is what the DCEU so desperately needs and craves. They can turn this....

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3. Acknowledges the Evidently Flawed Film that is Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice

While many actors and others involved with the DCEU acknowledge its faults, such as Jeremy Irons and even Affleck himself, sometimes you can be hard pressed to find anyone with a blunt and true statement on why the film may have gotten a sour reception. For the case of Batman vs. Superman Dawn of Justice Mel will tell it like it is.

"I’m really baffled by it. I think there’s a lot of waste, but maybe if I did one of those things with the green screens I’d find out different,” he added. “It seems to me that you could do it for less. … You’re spending outrageous amounts of money, $180 million or more. I don’t know how you make it back after the tax man gets you, and after you give half to the exhibitors.”

This is so true. The film and many efforts of the DCEU cost way too much to be bothered with often wasting egregious amounts of production and budget. It is no surprise with directors like Zack Snyder, who put too much emphasis on visual "spectacle" and needless waste of money that somebody more experienced has to tell it like it is.

Mel would find a way to use his resources carefully and diligently in conjunction with his story-telling and vision for his craft.

And indeed he offers a very true and concise opinion of the film.

“It’s a piece of s--t,”

Yes it is Mel. It truly is.

Mel can acknowledge that the film did not live to expectations and I firmly believe would help steer the DCEU in the right direction.

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Lol. This is so true.

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Mel has a point. Majority of CBMs are just overpriced imo. Please include his entire quote.

“It’s a piece of s–t,” the 60-year-old director told Deadline at the Venice Film Festival. “I’m not interested in the stuff. Do you know what the difference between real superheroes and comic-book superheroes is? Real superheroes didn’t wear spandex. So I don’t know. Spandex must cost a lot.”

Suffice to say, could a Mel CBM film be good? Yeah. It'd likely be better than the majority of them. But the likelyhood of him ever touching one? Nah

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Mel has a point. Majority of CBMs are just overpriced imo. Please include his entire quote.

“It’s a piece of s–t,” the 60-year-old director told Deadline at the Venice Film Festival. “I’m not interested in the stuff. Do you know what the difference between real superheroes and comic-book superheroes is? Real superheroes didn’t wear spandex. So I don’t know. Spandex must cost a lot.”

I got it from a separate article and the notes on my phone, but thanks.

While I don't agree with Mel here I still think he would be an excellent choice with enough convincing. We never expected men like Affleck or Nolan to make comic films and while they may share differing opinions still offer many positive things to the table.

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@nerevarine_11: Ben is a comic geek tho and Nolan has basically touched everything at this point. lol

Idk. I just can't see Mel doing a CBM based on his statement about them and his other works.

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Agreed. Mel Gibson could definitely steer the DCEU in the right direction. Great blog by the way.

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@darthaznable: And many people who aren't comic geeks have still worked on comic films. Yes currently Nolan has done much, but if 15 years ago you would've told me that he or Ben Affleck or Lawrence Fishburne would be working on comic flicks I would've called you crazy.

Its not something that can be dismissed entirely out of hand and again is from how I believe he could do it. Stranger things have happened.

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Great blog @nerevarine_11, I actually never thought about Mel helming the DCEU. :)

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Agreed. Mel Gibson could definitely steer the DCEU in the right direction. Great blog by the way.

Thank you sir.

Great blog @nerevarine_11, I actually never thought about Mel helming the DCEU. :)

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Only if Superman and Batman get to call Wonder Woman sugar tits

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I'd love to see Mel as an aged up Maxwell Lord.

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@darthaznable said:

Mel has a point. Majority of CBMs are just overpriced imo. Please include his entire quote.

“It’s a piece of s–t,” the 60-year-old director told Deadline at the Venice Film Festival. “I’m not interested in the stuff. Do you know what the difference between real superheroes and comic-book superheroes is? Real superheroes didn’t wear spandex. So I don’t know. Spandex must cost a lot.”

Suffice to say, could a Mel CBM film be good? Yeah. It'd likely be better than the majority of them. But the likelyhood of him ever touching one? Nah

I actually disagree a bit. Superhero movies are supposed to be big budget blockbusters. The problem is, the DCEU just isn't making enough money compared to the MCU, and Zack Snyder's movies are usually just mindless 200 dollar CGI porn. They'll have to rely less on CGI and more on actual decent filmmaking. BvS was a complete financial disappointment for how big budget it was.

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That face of sadfleck gets me every time xD. Poor Affleck.

Well-thought-out idea by the way.

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I love DC and I wanna see do it great just like Marvel. :(

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TLDR.

Also didn't he say he hates superhero movies?

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@darthaznable: And many people who aren't comic geeks have still worked on comic films. Yes currently Nolan has done much, but if 15 years ago you would've told me that he or Ben Affleck or Lawrence Fishburne would be working on comic flicks I would've called you crazy.

Its not something that can be dismissed entirely out of hand and again is from how I believe he could do it. Stranger things have happened.

15 years ago Comic book films weren't anywhere close to they are now tho minus the Spider-Man movies and Blade 1-2 (neither received critic praise but still loved by fans). I'm not dismissing it, just saying it's unlikely. None of those other guys have been outspoken towards comic book movies like Mel is. I agree with your post regardless tho.

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@knightsofdarkness2: Well I disagree a bit too, but the main problem is directors spending scathing amounts of post production and budget on one film that doesn't even offer any real cinematic substance. It would be different if they actually utilized the budget instead of spending it like a teenage girl at her first day in the mall. I mean take the horrible slow-mo shots in Zack's films...or how David Ayer wasted the budget to make Hot Topic Avengers a music video for Hot Topic and teens.

Also how can he not use that budget to create a comic accurate Doomsday? For somebody who is claimed to be "faithful to the comics" this should've spoke for itself.

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Haha I love the part at end of section 2 "We could turn this *sad Ben* into this *happy, I'm 6 years old and found out I am going to Disney World Ben*

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Yeah, put the anti-semitic australian guy in charge of DCEU. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

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@darthaznable:

15 years ago Comic book films weren't anywhere close to they are now tho minus the Spider-Man movies and Blade 1-2 (neither received critic praise but still loved by fans). I'm not dismissing it, just saying it's unlikely. None of those other guys have been outspoken towards comic book movies like Mel is. I agree with your post regardless tho.

I agree, but they had to start somewhere. I mean Burton and Richard Donner laid a foundation and started it off and other men and women had to sow the seeds for where we are now. Even people who dislike comics like Bryan Singer and find the source material to be lacking for their tastes started the comic film craze. And I would love to see Del Toro return to comic films. Thats all I'm saying at least from my standpoint, but I understand where you're coming from.

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@knightsofdarkness2 said:
@darthaznable said:

Mel has a point. Majority of CBMs are just overpriced imo. Please include his entire quote.

“It’s a piece of s–t,” the 60-year-old director told Deadline at the Venice Film Festival. “I’m not interested in the stuff. Do you know what the difference between real superheroes and comic-book superheroes is? Real superheroes didn’t wear spandex. So I don’t know. Spandex must cost a lot.”

Suffice to say, could a Mel CBM film be good? Yeah. It'd likely be better than the majority of them. But the likelyhood of him ever touching one? Nah

I actually disagree a bit. Superhero movies are supposed to be big budget blockbusters. The problem is, the DCEU just isn't making enough money compared to the MCU, and Zack Snyder's movies are usually just mindless 200 dollar CGI porn. They'll have to rely less on CGI and more on actual decent filmmaking. BvS was a complete financial disappointment for how big budget it was.

Idk. Look at Deadpool. That had a production budget of under 100mil. I guess that's just an exception these days since the only other movie to my knowledge that had less than 100mil is X-Men 1.

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@oldboy93 said:

Yeah, put the anti-semitic australian guy in charge of DCEU. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Your personal opinions on how you perceive Gibson or his actions is irrelevant. I separate the filmmaker from what hes done, especially as an immense fan of his work throughout the years.

Lets keep the ad-hominem about his personal life to a halt and actually focus on a resounding counterpoint. Because again, he has much more experience than many others in the DCEU.

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@darthaznable: This is another excellent point to make. However, I've found directors faced with limitations and those who have actual passion for the source material and respecting it in the full capabilities (something Snyder, Goyer and Ayer lack) is what separates them and allows them to make something special with the resources they have. Which is why Tim Miller had so much crticial, fan and financial success with Deadpool.

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@oldboy93 said:

Yeah, put the anti-semitic australian guy in charge of DCEU. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Mel moved to Australia when he was a kid. Who cares about his beliefs or personality tho. He objectively has made amazing films.

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They need someone, Ben Affleck shouldn't have to carry the DCEU.

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@darthaznable said:
@knightsofdarkness2 said:
@darthaznable said:

Mel has a point. Majority of CBMs are just overpriced imo. Please include his entire quote.

“It’s a piece of s–t,” the 60-year-old director told Deadline at the Venice Film Festival. “I’m not interested in the stuff. Do you know what the difference between real superheroes and comic-book superheroes is? Real superheroes didn’t wear spandex. So I don’t know. Spandex must cost a lot.”

Suffice to say, could a Mel CBM film be good? Yeah. It'd likely be better than the majority of them. But the likelyhood of him ever touching one? Nah

I actually disagree a bit. Superhero movies are supposed to be big budget blockbusters. The problem is, the DCEU just isn't making enough money compared to the MCU, and Zack Snyder's movies are usually just mindless 200 dollar CGI porn. They'll have to rely less on CGI and more on actual decent filmmaking. BvS was a complete financial disappointment for how big budget it was.

Idk. Look at Deadpool. That had a production budget of under 100mil. I guess that's just an exception these days since the only other movie to my knowledge that had less than 100mil is X-Men 1.

If you count the marketing costs etc it's noticeably higher than a lot of R rated movies.

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@knightsofdarkness2: Well I disagree a bit too, but the main problem is directors spending scathing amounts of post production and budget on one film that doesn't even offer any real cinematic substance. It would be different if they actually utilized the budget instead of spending it like a teenage girl at her first day in the mall. I mean take the horrible slow-mo shots in Zack's films...or how David Ayer wasted the budget to make Hot Topic Avengers a music video for Hot Topic.

Also how can he not use that budget to create a comic accurate Doomsday? For somebody who is claimed to be "faithful to the comics" this should've spoke for itself.

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True. The DCEU team is a complete mess. They can't get anything right. The DCEU needs a clean slate, and preferrably a reboot or a retcon.

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@nerevarine_11: I love Roman Polanski's movies and I think he's an impressive director, but you know what? I don't want him envolved in a superhero franchise.

We live in SJW era, with Gibson in charge of DCEU people will start hating superheroes for sure.

Why can't we have a great director who is also a normal person, like George Miller, Guillermo Del Toro or Peter Jackson

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@nerevarine_11: I think Snyder has the passion. He's just kind of retarded and definitely can't write. I think Snyder likes comics, he just can't make a good film out of them. Goyer is trash. Ayer you might be right. He can make a good movie like End of Watch and Fury but I'm not sure about him.

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@oldboy93: Well Roman Polanski is currently hiding out in another country avoiding arrest. Thats why he can't.

Also I'm not against other directors being involved in the DCEU. But I honestly seperate their personal lives from their works. Mel has a track record for bigger success something that a good portion of the DCEU ensemble lacks. As well as experience.

Aside from Affleck, Irons, Amy Adams and Lawrence Fishburne and Michael Shannon nobody has the same level of acting experience that they do. And for Afflecks case directorial as well.

Edit: also this topic wasn't about the directors you mentioned. I had a specific one in mind and that was Mel Gibson.

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@gainz said:

They need someone, Ben Affleck shouldn't have to carry the DCEU.

Ben isn't really carrying it. He just gets a lot of publicity because they know he's literally the only capable person they have. He's what? Executive Producer? And also writing/directing the Batman movie? I don't think he has his hands in every movie.

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@nerevarine_11: I think James Cameron would have been the perfect guy for this kind of job. Unfortunately he's not interested in superhero movies (like Gibson after all)

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I think that the DCEU needs someone like Matthew Vaughn (or himself), a guy who can balance fun, drama and action in a movie. However, Mel Gibson would be a nice addition to the DCEU as well.

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A well written blog, you do make your case very well about why Gibson would be a better alternative to the Snyder/Ayer horror show in the DCEU. However, I'm not sure Gibson would be willing to direct a DCEU movie for the very quote Gibson said about heroes. Those endearing qualities in characters like William Wallace may have only been possible because he was an ordinary man. Gibson doesn't feel the same way about comic book heroes. And in today's PC environment Mel Gibson having the reins to the DCEU would probably offend someone sadly :/

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@lvenger said:

A well written blog, you do make your case very well about why Gibson would be a better alternative to the Snyder/Ayer horror show in the DCEU. However, I'm not sure for the very quote Gibson said about heroes. Those endearing qualities in characters like William Wallace may have only been possible because he was an ordinary man. Gibson doesn't feel the same way about comic book heroes. And in today's PC environment Mel Gibson having the reins to the DCEU would probably offend someone sadly :/

thank you. and yeah Gibson would prob offend somebody I mean if Braveheart was released now, people would have an outcry

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@darthaznable: ''think Snyder has the passion. He's just kind of retarded''

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA Bruuh

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@darthaznable: ''think Snyder has the passion. He's just kind of retarded''

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA Bruuh

http://www.dorkly.com/post/77697/zack-snyder-batman-v-superman

Tell me he isn't at least slightly retarded.

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@oldboy93 said:

Yeah, put the anti-semitic australian guy in charge of DCEU. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Well, we put kid diddlers and alleged rapists in charge of films and they still win awards, so.......

Not to mention Zack Snyder is currently in charge of the DCEU, and he is a huge fan of Ayn Rand, who held controversial opinions that Snyder himself likely holds.

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Hahaha is this an elaborate joke thread.

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I think Peter Jackson would be a fantastic comic book movie director, but he isn't interested in doing comic book movies unfortunately.

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Hahaha is this an elaborate joke thread.

this isn't a joke thread.

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Why does everyone assume its the director's fault ? again , NO MATTER WHO DCEU HIRES , IT WILL BE BAD UNLESS WB DECREASES THEIR INLFUENCE IN THE MOVIE MAKING PROCESS , James Cameron wouldn't help DCEU , Ridley scott cant and mel Gibson damn sure cant , you guys still ignore who influences the movie making process in DCEU , its not like MCU where Fiege gets final say , WB gets final say in EVERYTHING , that is the main reason BvS and SS underachieved