@seventhmoon: No, it's incredibly clear about the fact that Kayneth's defenses are both capable of defending him at the last second before an attack connects, and that they operate through pressure and are directly compared to water jets, making them irrefutably supersonic.
And again, Kirei with one arm and eye defended against triple excel Kiritsugu, who was tremendously outspeeding volumen hydrogram.
"The dagger attacked continuously, flickering through the air with a chilling light. No regular human would have been able to even see Kiritsugu’s movements; only the lighting-like residual images the dagger left in its wake. Kirei, though, blocked every attack using just his left arm. Kirei, who easily defended himself even when faced with attacks made at three times the speed of normal humans, terrified Kiritsugu. There were a few attacks that even Kirei would never have seen coming with his eyes, but the Executor’s left arm defended him, as if it could see every swing."
Kiritsugu is at minimum twice as fast as the supersonic volumen hydrogram making him at the very least high supersonic bordering on hypersonic, and Kirei again with one arm and one eye matches an even faster Kiritsugu. Unless you think that Kirei is faster than Saber or even in her ballpark, then no Saber isn't capped at merely supersonic.
Illya's constructs visibly break the sound barrier when they shoot yet Archer snipes them out of the air from kilometers away. At minimum his arrows are high hypersonic to massively hypersonic based on this and yet we know Saber, Lancer, and other servants are capable of deflecting and dodging multiple of them even mid combat.
Archer's caladabolg also quickly shoots off way into the sky in a second after clashing with Caster, easily spanning close the length of the city. Again this is another feat that goes well beyond "Just supersonic"
Again for anyone else reading this I'm not commenting on who wins, but I hope that we can put this "Saber is only supersonic" stuff to rest, when even characters that are complete fodder to her have feats on or beyond that
@seventhmoon: you're citing these but at the same time ignoring how even masters like Kiritsugu using double excel can move fast enough that Kayneth's volumen hydrargyrum which is fast enough to outpace Shrapnel from explosions and bullets moves in slow motion to him. And then Kirei with one arm destroyed and blood in his eye is able to keep pace with triple excel Kiritsugu...and yet they're still nothing to servants. Saying Saber isn't beyond supersonic is just tremendous downplay. Again that's if you ignore the several instances of lightspeed statements in the series that Saber scales to
Again don't know Goku but Saber isn't struggling with bullet speed. Fate Zero alone states her capable of moving at near light speeds and Heavens feel has her slightly less agile alter version parrying stated lightspeed attacks from Rider. So yeah. If Goku is slower than that he's getting blitzed
Lancelot's Weapon was enhanced by his ability. Its how he makes an ordinary street pole able to block attacks from characters who can easily cut through steel. So it's not an anti feat. Saber and other servants have a plethora of Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic feats. That said, I don't know Goku enough to say who wins
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