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@aversionofthee: I don’t see your rationale man, suppose we can agree to disagree.

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@aversionofthee: Hulk was practically running into Thing’s punch, whereas IF (big if) Thing managed to tag Superman, it wouldn’t be a direct blow to the chin like it was IH.

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@aversionofthee: That doesn’t make any sense... increasing speed would increase power... hence force = (mass)(acceleration)... I think that’s just because Doomsday is really durable...

For example, New-52 Superman has pummeled Orion at super-speed (I would argue Orion is superior to Thing in durability).

And I think Ashyrm’s post suggests otherwise....

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@marveld2: I thought u were taking a 3 week CV break???? That’s why I am holding off on our debate......

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#5  Edited By Hellespont

@aversionofthee: it’s not quite the same though. Let’s say Thing could take 50 consecutive hits from IH and 75 consecutive hits from Superman.

In the case of Hulk, those 50 consecutive hits could last that full hour, giving Thing the time to swing for the fences and potentially get lucky (which he did).

In the case of Superman however, those 75 hits could take less than a single second.

I am also not convinced Hulk was actually trying against Ben. His comments/ attitude suggest that if he wanted to, Hulk could’ve ended the fight sooner.

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@aversionofthee: Look at it this way. If I’m fighting a random bodybuilder who’s way bigger and stronger than I am, it is possible that I grit my teeth, swing for the fences, and land a lucky haymaker KO.

However, let’s say I’m fighting a pro-athlete, who is not only stronger than me, but faster, more agile, and has better reflexes. The odds of me landing that haymaker, my only hope of winning, are now significantly decreased. Thus, I’m probably screwed.

For the purposes of this battle, IH is the bodybuilder and Superman is the athlete.

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@aversionofthee: Idk if it’s fair to claim he could consistently pull off what is referred to as the best punch of Thing’s career.... that’s almost by definition not consistent.

Especially when you factor in this fight is in character, Ben doesn’t know Superman, Superman could likely evade a haymaker whereas Hulk couldn’t, etc. etc.

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@aversionofthee: Oh okay, claiming Thing can consistently hang with Hulk, I can agree with. I thought the claim was that Thing has been consistent at one-shotting Hulk tier beings. Thanks for clarifying,

In that case, I see no reason why Superman doesn’t take this convincingly.

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@aversionofthee: I would challenge you to prove Thing has been consistently operating on one-shotting Hulk levels for “a while now”.