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Can't really say DC is gonna win with this.

These past years it was clear how spent he had become.

So if DC is expecting him to arrive and immediately bring his A game, they're in it for a bad surprise.

Sure hope they don't put him writing Super related titles. Because that would be a good way to mess him up off the bat.

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@saintwildcard:

First of all. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Like in the past you really shown some really good points. And I believe they could actually work.

But although I found your approach to Superman to be good, can't say I find it to be great. And at this point, Superman if his to ever recover his status, good might not be enough.

All we have to do is look at the whole Rebirth thing and see the disaster it's been. Not only have a lot of fans walked out on the character, but the numbers, unbiased and holders of the truth numbers, don't lie. It's been four months now that DC Comics as been crushed by Marvel, in terms of sales. Rebirth only gave DC a three month lead over Marvel from July to September in the order of roughly about 5%. In October, DC was already losing by 5%. Then it lost by 10%, then it was 7%, and in January lost by 11% in sales. So if anyone needs any proof that Rebirth is failing miserably, look no further. Numbers don't lie, nor do they make excuses. Rebirth was simply not the way.

To me as I was reading your text, the thing that popped out the most wss that I didn't found your approach to be edgy enough. Honestly some of your ideas have already been explored in the past. You simply knew how to give a better feel to it.

So I'll share with you some of things that I would've changed or added. But I'll keep it as short as possible, as to not bore you to death.

First. Krypton! Too many writers simply dismiss Krypton altogether, and I always find that to be a huge mistake. Krypton could be used as wellspring of stories but writers usually neglect it altogether, for whatever reason that always eludes me. Krypton should be explained and explored. To give the viewers an idea of how far ahead of us they actually were. And we shouldn't see them facing human problems, like lack of resources (MoS) or plain war. War can be used, but the base line the reason of the war as to be futuristic. And here you can explore the war caused by the use of clones in kryptonian society, or if you wanted to really be innovative, war between an unknown force. Krypton became the target of something, that can and should have connections to Krypton that it would be left for Superman to find out. We could be given an initial interpretation by Jor-El or Zod that they wanted to destroy the kryptonian race because they feared what kryptonians were becoming.

The Kents. The Kents should make some appearances. After all without the Kents, there's no Superman. You could introduce Lois in season 2 for all I cared, but the Kents, they need to not always be around, but even if it's by a phone call, or Clark visiting them from time to time, to be present.

The El's. Again another rich wellspring of ideas and possibilities that's rarely if ever explored. Taking ideas from the past, and combining what to me would be the best. We'd see that the ship that would take Kal to Earth was built by both Jor and Lara. And that within the ship it carried a kind of module or artifact that contained a mental imprint of their consciousness. So as to keep guard and guide their son even after their apparent death. The El's would be shown through flashbacks and everytime Superman visited his fortress to be and have been ever present while Kal was growing up as Clark. We could even get a scene where Jonathan Kent shows a kid Clark the ship that brought him to them. And with time Clark instead of running from answers he'd be obsessed over them. The ship being mentally linked to Clark, we could see that Jor and Lara made themselves known to Clark as his powers started to grow ever more powerful and as new one's started to appear. They would not tell him everything, only the essential. Like for example, that sending him away was the toughest choice they had to make but that they had carefully chosen an alternative home for him and the right people to raise him. They would appear as almost ghostly apparitions, but explained to be mental projections sent by the ship, to guide Clark in times of need and when he needed guidance. So as to make Clark fully accept he was also Kal-El, and that in a way he was the son of two worlds. And also as a way to explain how and why Clark never kills anyone by accident when his powers simply manifest out of nowhere.

Clark Kent. I wouldn't explore Clark as being the guy trying to fit in, but the guy that came to Metropolis to make a difference, and he would so without fear or doubts, but with sheer will and determination. Yes, I'd show that like you had suggested, Clark had spent a few years traveling the world. But for such a well traveled character to feel real he would have to take Metropolis by storm. Yes, the initial times would be tough for Clark, but never financially. It would be more in the lines, of "What do the people need me to be?" "What can I do or become to really make a difference?" "How to help them, without making them dependent on me to fix all their problems?" "Am I ready to face the repercussions of coming out and reveal myself to the world? And how should I do it?"... This to me should be the main focus initially. As he's arriving in Metropolis.

We could see him create a blog and write articles about really essential problems. Articles that started to make a name for himself. He would eventually meet Perry, Lois, Jimmy, Cat and Maggie. His first experience in the Daily Planet should be shown to end in him quitting the Daily Planet. Because like you suggest Lois and Lex had a relationship in the past, and when the DP went through financial problems Lex bought the DP. So when Clark goes to initially work at the DP, Perry will be his best experience. He would see, that what the DP had once been, it wasn't anymore. That with someone like Lex Luthor in charge, the DP simply doesn't have the freedom to be what it should be. And we can see this, by Clark delivering some very important exposes and then he notices that the people involved are warned and have time to get rid of all the evidences or that his articles are simply shot down. And that Clarl doesn't has the freedom to write what he wants to write about. But while there he gets know Lois, Cat and Jimmy.

He eventually quits the DP, and when he sees all other news medium are owned by Lex and other corrupt businessman, he decides to create his own news site. The Daily Star. Here we wouldn't see mild mannered reporter Clark Kent, but ass kicking reporter Clark Kent. As he would tackle the city problems head on. I'd essentially place Clark Kwnt in the spotlight.

As for how being in the spotlight and still be Superman, I'd simply show that this Superman already came well prepared and trained by his biological parents (or the AI's of his biological parents). We'd see Clark using his powers in ways we have already seen him do in the past only instead of being a oneshot, it would be the new standard for Superman.

One thing that should be tackled is his powers. A new explanation is in order. Might as well say that kryptonians possess exotic elements in their bodies composition that enables them to quantum entangle themselves to the stars closest to them. Through means of the sunlight kryptonians are exposed to and also the distance from that star. This way we could say explain why Krypton's lifeforms even though having developed on a planet 5 times bigger than Earth, had the humanoids kryptonians and giant animals. That they also drew power from red stars, only not nearly on the level as stars of higher class.

And that because of his training Clark could change simple thing about how he looks. His unnatural blue eyes, he could change willingly change them to look normal blue. He could make his hair grow to the size he wanted very fast, and that everytime he was Clark he would simply use his other powers to cut it back down again. Also Clark could expand his muscles to a certain point and reduce them, anytime he wanted. Thus creating the necessary changes to explain why the glasses on glasses off thing works.

Lois, Jimmy and Cat. Here I'd also do something no one else as ever done. Lois and Cat would start out as being bff's, coming all the way since college. Jimmy was the basically the guy you described but with two major changes. The first one, was that he carried a flame for Lois. The second one, he and Clark would be friends but not best friends. To that role I'd put Cat. Yes. Clark best friend would be a woman. It could even be shown that Clark and Cat met when she was being robbed and Clark stepped in as Clark, and used the kryptonian fighting arts taught to him by Lara that had been part of the kryptonian Military Guild, and Clark showing his level of control he would've fought off the assailants much like a experienced martial artist would've done. From that moment on, something clicks with those two, and they become best friends over time (obviously not over night). In fact the rift between Lois and Cat begins when Lois starts to see in Clark a opponent. Someone she has to beat in every article. Lois initial response to Clark would not be the best, because she would find him good, too good as a investigative reporter. And that rivalry increases as Lois focus her articles on Superman, but Clark clearly chooses to expose political, financial and social problems, but still manages to match her and even beat her news feedback from the people. Cat Grant would initially try to be the neutral party. Still keep her best friend and not ruin her friendship with Clark. In this department Jimmy would be more biased. When it came to choose between Clark and Lois he'd always choose Lois. While in Cat we see a totally unbiased person. A good and extremely professional character. That's also doing her thing in the news business but she's not in least interested in competing with Lois or Clark.

We could eventually see the breaking point being brought on by Lois, when Clark wins his first Pulitzer instead of Lois. While Cat attends the ceremony as Clark plus one/date, that's when Lois tries to corner Cat into a wall, and demands she has to pick a side. Years of friendship over someone she knows for much less time. We could even see Cat trying to reason with ego hurt Lois, only to see Lois question Cat's motives and implying she's only in Clark side, because the two are sleeping together, and so of course Cat would side with her lover. Here! We could see Cat actually punching Lois and then throwing in her face, that unlike her she doesn't sleeps or tries to sleep with every men of power she meets. Obviously referring how Lex bought the DP to keep close tabs on Lois, and in doing so, forcing Perry and the DP to be nothing more than sellouts. And that she and Clark are her business, and that they aren't sleeping together. And even if they were Lois had no morality to say anything. And here Cat could really drop the bomb, by saying that Clark was ten times the man, that Lois chose to sleep around with, and would even throw in Lois face that Lois new goal is to get in bed with Superman. The two could have a small physical and verbal fight until Clark and Lois date broke the two apart. Clark would take Cat home, while Lois ditches her date and goes home by herself.

It would be far more interesting to see Clark having Cat as best friend and possible romantic relationship. See Lois and Clark relationship from totally disliking each other to mutual respect, and eventually seeing Lois see Clark for what he really was. And she herself feeling inspired by is way of not selling out. Jimmy could even in time see Lois was not the person for him, and starts to become unbiased when it came to Lois and Clark.

As for Lex. It makes perfect sense that a normal human could never be able to compete mentally with Superman. Because the whole thing of Lex possessing a intellectual capacity greater than Superman... That's probably one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. If any writer wants to make such a point valid, then they would have to introduce Lex as being a metahuman and not just a normal human. That or Lex could start out normal and during one his scientists for rent experiments he gets exposed to something that mutates his DNA to something that enables him to possess a brain capable of competing with that of Superman. But my choice would be to show Lex as genius level human, but within human parameters, while Superman was a genius within kryptonian parameters. So Lex would have to depend on employing other scientists from various fields to work for him.

As for Clark being in the spotlight instead of the mild mannered shtick, and still be Superman. I know that even with the superficial changes people could connect the dots, that's why I'd have in more than one occasion Superman place a Clark android, in the same places he is as so people can see the two of them in the same place. That way if anyone were to suspect that maybe Superman had shapeshifting abilities, by seeing the two in the same place, no one would ever consider them to be the same person.

In the end it all comes down to what can be improved. Should it be improved. And then run with it.

Because that's the problem with Superman... At least to me. I can't read a comic of Superman or see a movie or TV show version, and feel any measure of wonder or excitement. Because I feel I'm seeing the sam story being told over and over again. The essential, the essence is always the same. It's been the same for over 30 years now. It's got to change! If it doesn't evolve then eventually Superman will fade into oblivion.

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Although I loved the text, I can't really in good consciousness say that Superman is the god of anything. Maybe part of the problem is that too many people see Superman as a god, when he couldn't be more far from it.

Superman was a idea, if anything the idea to bring down divinity to our level. For millennia, men and women, have struggled to understand the will of gods, goddesses, demi-gods and all that lied between.

And so two highschool students, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster envisioned a man that was not born a god, but due to circumstances of fate would become the next best thing.

No more, people had to place their faith and beliefs in gods that choose to not show their faces. Now people had something/someone else to look up to. Sure, he was just ink in pages, but at least people could see him, could follow his adventures. And in a way in the attempt to create an icon, a symbol of the best humanity had to aspire to, they created tens, then hundreds, then thousands of new gods. Men had become gods.

They then (and now) could envision a world a character and give it life. Shape him or her to be whatever they wanted it to be.

The new gods had been born.

And for a time it was good.

People cared more about being original than simply copying each other. And so for a time it was good.

For a time, imagination was free to inspire, not just the demi-gods(readers) but also potential new gods to come into the light. And for a time it was good.

But then like almost all things made by our species,the new gods and demi-gods, broke the rules, played to win at any cost. And then all was not good.

Instead of trying to be original, the goal was to beat the each other in their own personal games. So both the new gods and demi-gods went at war with each other.

And finally we arrive here... Dawn of the 21st century. And things couldn't be more broken. Originality is scarce, good writers with new groundbreaking ideas are also scarce. And the war goes on. Gods against gods, demi-gods against demi-gods. Old gods against the new and the new against the old.

There once was a age of wonders, brought to us by comic books, but now the awe the wonder is mostly gone.

The old age of being inspired and feeling inspired, is all but a faint memory. The creations of the gods turned on each other also, all grabbing for any bit of scrap from the glorious first days.

Never really understanding that the more apart they are, the more easy it as become to create sloppy work. The old gods try to create but they are stuck in a endless cycle of recreation. While the new gods, that try to create something new are met with fearsome opposition. Because a lot of the old gods and demi-gods don't know when to admit that their time is gone, that they held on to their thrones for far too long, and that the more they fight change the more change will fight them. They should delegate themselves to the role of mentors and leave the new age for those that can understand the new age and what lies beyond it.

So in a way Superman has lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

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No one can deny Lobdell brought a lot of new to the New52 Superman. After all it was under his watch that Psycho Pirate mentioned Superman untapped psionic potential. Something that makes the old school harcore close minded fans, immediately start a riot just because.

He failed mostly to keep things consistent. It seemed he was too busy going from a idea filled with potential to another one without taking care of the previous one's. Maybe because he thought the New in the New52 was a thing other writers would stick to, but then he and the readers got cheated.

Johns was too busy adding nothing, making people remember the pre-New52, and even added maybe the worst power in Superman history of powers.

No can say Lobdell is the greatest writer in the world, nor is he the easiest person to work with, but at least he tried to do his job. Tomasi for the most part was divided between writing a story about a couple he himself didn't believed in. Johns... Well this little sh*t turd did everything in his power to ruin the New52, and chocke the readers with the same thing that had been done countless times in the past. Yang was and still is clearly out of his league. Safe to say his and Johns collaboration were like putting cadmium in the reader food. Pak did the best he could in a awkward and awful situation.

So although we can criticize Lobdell for not handling his job better, he at least tried to do his job. Unlike the others that came after him.

If I was in charge of DC, Lobdell would've had to paid the price for his lack of sight and consistency, but Johns, Tomasi and Yang would've been fired on the spot. Never again would they write in DC Comics. It's no wonder the New52 became radioactive, when most of the writers were poisoning it.

So yeah Lobdell had his faults and from what I hear he still has them, but hell at least the projects he gets involved have potential to grow and evolve. He isn't the greatest writer out there, but seeing the work his successors did, what can we call that, if not employees that not only failed miserably at their jobs, but they also sabotaged the publisher itself.

And for what... Rebirth!? Reborn!? And then possibly this Infinite Crisis...

It's no wonder that Marvel even being buried in sh*t waist deep was able to win in sales in October. Basically Rebirth only had three months of lead until it lost it, to a publisher that's doing some of riskier moves I've ever seen. Moves that can heavily backfire on them.

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You totally nailed it. Specially in the part where it seems this show as some political agenda of sorts.

Even now. We went from Alex Danvers being clearly physically attracted to Maxwell Lord, to now in season 2 she finds out of the blue, that she's gay. The moment I was told about that, my jaw dropped. When I sometimes wondered if I should give this show a second chance, people tell me stuff about what's happening, and I completely lose all interest.

Supergirl lost me in the first season. To me that was the most bland, and weakest Supergirl I ever seen with the exception of the DCAU. How they kept selling kryptonians to be this powerhouses that had near limitless power as Hank Henshaw stated at least twice if not more times, and then I would see a missile almost knocking out Supergirl. A simple missile. It wasn't a missile with kryptonite in it or an alien missile. Just a plain human tech missile.

Also how she's conveniently super-fast in some scenes and super-slow most of the time also got my nerves in a blender.

Personally I stopped seeing Supergirl halfway through the first season, and what I know about it, is mainly from girl friends that I have, that watch the show and simply love. All that nonesense story and cast.

Not only did her sister Alex turned gay for no reason but to appeal to the gay audience, but now we got a Mon-El that is kinda like a kryptonian, but without any of the really cool powers. Daxamites are basically kryptonians with only physical abilities. No super-senses, no flying, no energy powers, because god forbids, they put someone on this show that could be a match to Supergirl in every way. They weren't even creative enough to give Mon-El his own set of powers. No. He needed to be a chinese version of a kryptonian solar battery.

But to add offence to stupidity, they now got Jimmy Olsen playing the role of Guardian. I guess this show won't rest until they turn every iconic figure from Superman stories and completely trash them.

Bad enough that their Superman only sucks less than Supergirl, but the plot twists only really work on those that know nothing about Superman stories in the comics... "I couldn't believe she was a white Martian."... "Yeah... I knew about that the moment you told me her name."... "Did you know Jimmy Olsen is now this character called Guardian?"... [I almost spit my drink in her face] "WHAT!? Jimmy Olsen the Guardian? Are you kidding with me right now?"

Also Winn was not gay. He loved Kara, and now it seems according to what I heard, that him and Lena Luthor shared a moment. A technological geek moment, but a moment nonetheless.

It was Alex sudden and out of nowhere gayness that simply took me by surprise. Because as I understand it, they're not selling it as she being bisexual. No. She's now totally gay. Which makes me kinda wonder what the hell were those moments with Max Lord.

Also to replace Max Lord as the main antagonist (yeah because Kara's aunt and uncle never sold to me as villains, their agenda was simply too narrow minded for me to take them seriously) for Cadmus... Another sloppy move.

Why people still watch this show raises the same question I ask people that read the Rebirth Supergirl comics... "How can you watch that sh*t!?" They're both equally bad, comic and TV show, the only difference is that in the TV they can't mess up the artwork, where in the comic, it seems they hired whoever it was that drew the Powerpuff Girls. Simply terrible.

Give me dark and gloomy Man of Steel any day compared to this eye bleeding nightmare.

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Gwen Stacy ah... Here we go again.

Bad decisions are about to be made, and something tells me Peter is gonna make all the wrong decisions again.

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About damm time. Been waiting for this, ever since I first learned about Cyclops death.

The why's and the how's.

Just hope they don't show Scott going all crazy and doing things, just because he thinks he knows better than everyone else. That finally we get to see the price mutants have been paying because of Black Bolt decision. Which funny enough no one as demanded accountability. Barton killed Bruce Banner and got off with a slap in the hand. Marvel as been giving a free pass to murderers recently.

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Typical comic book BS. It's no wonder I can't stand Rebirth.

Not only does everyone in DC looks like they're poping stupidity pills, but DC also wants to call "idiots" to each reader.

New52 and Convergence/Rebirth Lois have a great age gap. Yes, Convergence Lois was well conserved, but there's a big difference between looking good for her age, and simply pulling a facelift and no one is wiser for that. No one even notices that she's grown older.

Superman facelift was already a stretch, but it was okay, because he wasn't and isn't hanging around with New52 Clark friends. So there's no real problem there. Also for Superman we can count it up to his kryptonian slow aging process.

But here we got Lois, that's at the very least 10 years older than New52 Lois, and in 10 years she still looks exactly the same to pass as New52 Lois... It's this lack of creativity and utter lack of intelligence that imo as been the mark that stands out from Rebirth.

Convergence Lois had no need to go back to the Daily Planet. Wasn't she the one grinning Clark head, over their need to keep a low profile!? How is she gonna explain the existence of Jon!?... "Hey guys. Me and Clark we married in secret some years ago and we got a son."... Perry (and basically everyone else) "Wait! How can that be? You were dating another guy, you were even living together. What nonsense is this!!" Unless of course they pull the adoption card. And say they recently fell in love and decided to adopt a kid, that is the spit face of Clark.

This lack of creativity and capacity to do things differently as been for decades, DC greatest flaw.

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Very well put @saintwildcard. On point and most of all hiting all the hard issues that most people prefer to ignore or act trollish about them, because their brains can't grasp even a paragraph of what you wrote.

BvS did more damge to Superman and the whole Justice League story than Superman snapping the neck of 10 Zod's.

It focused too much on Batman. A Batman that wasn't Batman, but a billionaire murderer that as some real anger control issues. But then loses said issues because he and the alien he loved so much to hate, had mothers with the same first name. A Batman that relentlessly killed people like they were target practice, and had no real idea he was being used like a chump.

And that ending where we see the earth in Superman coffin starting to move, was simply idiotic. Because they messed up the part of Superman having no more access to kryptonian technology, no real Fortress, because he let the Scout Ship simply be in the hands of humans.

If Prometheus gave fire to men, Superman gave them an anti-matter bomb, by simply not have taken the ship away.

And maybe, just maybe... Setting the ground work for the ship to fix itself in time, to detect the death of the last son of Krypton, send a few robots to retrieve his body, and place his body in the regeneration chamber. We could habe even gotten a post credits scene showing exactly that. Only to not make Superman return to life look like a gigantic plot convenience, because no one in DC was smart enough to think two movies ahead.

If DC doesn't learn from their mistakes they're gonna get what they gotten with each movie... A desperate race to try and get their money back.

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