hatsonmelo

@bagman1236: I've already read the Mega Batman RT you copy and pasted those feats from him. Almost all the ones you linked were aim-dodging, and you included instances that were irrelevant like outspeeding monks and scarecrow. Even with those instances being taken into account, you didn't reach half the amount of showings in the album.

IM instance runs the same problem, copy and pasted from the speed section of an RT, several irrelevant instances like dodging unquantifiable magic blasts, and even factoring in those in not reaching a fraction of the album instances.

@bagman1236:

TBF even though using powerscaling tiktok terms is wrong, most of the fears you posted are from the classic era, which was kinda inconsistent even though canon. More recent comics are more consistent than classic.

Not true, current comics are just as inconsistent as modern comics. If you're claiming recent comics are more consistent, that's a claim you'll have to provide evidence of.

Furthermore some of the instances you posted thor was weakened or was simply depowered, such as The unworthy thor era.

All Thor last was his ability to use Mjolnir, his stats were explicitly the same.

As for batman there are significantly more nervous feats of him dodging bullets, light beams, and reacting to speedsters in some was shape or form. I can post then if you like.

There aren't, and if you do want to derail the thread like that, at least upload them in an imgur album.

The "Random nerd" guy was kinda correct on iron man being ablento move at the speed of thought or faster, because he has done that before, and the scans you show of Iron man's ineptness, one of them are ratty, others are fair, and some aren't even anti feats to begin with, with some even just being some built up inconsistencies from the thousands of comics iron man has been in.

This is not a proper counter unless you can provide specific instances and counters rather than vague buzzwords.

@randomnerd1234:

Like Tony has multiple feats and statements of him being MFTL.

Tony moves as fast as instant teleportation in his older suits as well, and his more recent suits are even faster than that.

There are no such instances in any comic books that have not been published on fanfic.net. If you want instances of IM's actual power, here's just a small sample of IM's overall ineptness.

We literally have comic book street tiers dodging light

Aim-dodging saves more than just streets from lasers, but when they don't get the chance to anticipate the attack, the character you're referring to gets tagged by orders of magnitude less.

Also, anyone that thinks thor, hulk, or silver surfer are anything below outerversal are stupid

Violation of site rules with a side of insecurity parroting a tiktok viewpoint based on easily debunkable feats that has nothing to do with the thread. Wash that down with some actual feats of just 1 of the characters you listed.

• Killed by sewage wires and needs to be revived by Surfer
• Knocked out by an Avalanche and again
• Thinks falling into Magma would be fatal
• Scared of falling rocks
• Pinned by rocks
• Pinned by boulder
• Knocked out by falling rock
• Hit by a falling boulder and is down
• Arm pinned by a Iron-Shafted Javelin
• Can't endure rockets for longs and uses a wall to block them
• Stunned by falling helicopter
• Knocked out by flying into steel girders
• Hit by a falling mast which knocks him out and almost leads to him drowning
• Stunned by stick of dynamite
• Villain that overpowered Thor is killed by a fall
• Opponent that was evenly matched by Thor would have been killed by a fall
• Monster that tanked and pinned Thor is crushed by a collapsing castle
• Thor fears falling and has to break it
• Can only lift 95 tons
• With his power halved he can't lift a building or a vehicle
• Skyscraper withstands the full force of Thor and Godzilla before eventually starting to crack
• Exhausts himself slightly lifting a ship
• Needs She-Hulks help to stop a capsizing ship
• Can't support a river for long
• Scared of dying from falling off a building
• Would have been killed by a fall
• Struggles to support a collapsing building and needs Spiderman's help
• Unable to support a falling building
• Incapacitated by a falling building
• Mentions how he can't throw a skyscraper as easily as Nefaria and the rubble could crush him
• Pinned by cars for a full minute
• Can't fight a horde of sharks head on and has to resort to creating a vortex to beat them
• Needs nearly a minute to slay a tiger
• Would have been crushed by stone if not for Mjolnir
• Could have been restrained by Steel Tentacles and would have barely survived a falling block
• WW2 mine explodes in his face which briefly leaves him stunned
• Knocked out by exploding mortar
• Floored by artillery craft
• IV needle is able to penetrate his skin
• Mightiest blows fail to fully dig through a mountain
• Thor and friends would have died to a large nuke level blast and needed to be shielded by Sue
• Blown away by a nuke while under Warrior Madness
• Two nuclear missiles can only be temporarily contained by Odin-Force Thor
• Struggles to slow down train
• Scared of dying from falling into spikes

And unlike a tiktok, you can hover over each link for the source and check them for context.

Hulk stomps.

@jimohkolawol10:

http://i.imgur.com/b6ISW3b.jpg

Do you even read the scans you post?

This was due to Kryptonite-X, but this is essentially the problem with all your posts. You don't actually read the issues or scans in question, you plagiarize some old posts from banned users that have been debunked dozens of times over instead of actually doing anything by yourself.

Duo. Both already have solid showings against Symbiotes, with Ock beating Venom outright and Chameleon using Goblin's glider accidently KOing Carnage.

He's referring to Orchis taking Damage Control for something not related to the Stark Sentinels.

It's actually weird how many times it gets stated the Stark Sentinels are strictly Stark Tech. You would think the name would make it obvious enough but I'm not complaining.

@geekryan said:

@hatsonmelo said:

@jay_z94 said:

Regarding Tony vs Ororo in 2023:

- Both were holding back.

- Storm “won” by taking advantage of Tony’s morals and removing his helmet, followed by a lightning strike while Tony didn’t have his helmet.

Regarding Tony vs Ororo now:

- Stark sentinels which use his tech are resistant to Storm’s lightning and used sonics to easily deal with her.

- Therefore with Tony’s current tech and the “win by any means” stipulation, he wins.

Agreed. I already posted the Stark Sentinels being as tough to beat as IM but I'll just post a few more of the Stark Sentinels specifically using Stark Tech with no mention of being upgraded by Orchis.

(not that it'd matter anyway, as Orchis is currently using Stark Tech)

Literally the entire point of Orchis is stealing and modifying tech lol. They have done this several times in multiple different ways.

Such as? If it's the example I'm thinking of, that's much less advanced tech. Since Stark Tech is more advanced, it apparently needed no modifications as evidenced by the WoG.

I'll do it. First, Prime was pumped full of Guardian energy to the point where he started calling himself Superman Prime. Second, it was 1 universe and only through a chain reaction.

Prime's actual level is nowhere near that

@shroudofsorrow: They're pretty cool. Check out Batwoman (2011) #16. The art isn't half bad either.