Greysentinel365

GI wins. Marrok did about as well as 5th and GI is better than that

Bucky might die

Gonna need a real good reason Eren doesn’t get disintegrated by the laser

Spiral Ray is objectively stated as better.

@jurance:

Everything you said was wrong so I fixed it.

Lol you can't even engage with the points.

So you agree that the amp wore off given you just admitted that he used all the energy he gained from his amp?

He expended all the energy from nuke that was overloading him. The evolution Mothra induced that gifted him the ability to release it and increased his capacity was permanent

Kong's blows knocked around a weaker version of Godzilla

False

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It's not. His energy capacity increasing 20x is a statement

Its a description of a feat.

This was clearly not a fight. Watch it yourself to refresh your memory.

Your vid cuts away other scenes. They fight for a full minute and are described as damaging each other.

Did I say it did lasting damage? The AB did not even hit him for a full second ofc it's not gonna do lasting damage but it still set his back on fire.

Irrelevent.

Ghidorah wanted to kill Godzilla, he would've flown away with him if he could've but he didn't because he couldn't. Simply because Godzilla was stronger than him at that time.

Headcanon.

He's not limping.

He's not moving at all. Let me help you there

Head dropped in pain and limping back. Plain as day.

He couldn't win yet he was winning.

He landed one attack that did no damage and only took Godzilla out of the fight for a sec due to environmental element.

Considering a stronger was still drawing with the person Dooku bullied no more than 2.

1 can win a minority.

@jurance:

They are random when they come out of nowhere and are contradicted by feats which I'll be explaining below.

They don't come from nowhere

They aren't contradicted by feats

They were not explained below

His dorsal plates were glowing blue the entire time during his fight with Ghidorah post amp, they stopped glowing after which proves he lost his amp.

The glowing is an indication of Godzillas capacity being exceeded and him overloading. The reason they weren't glowing anymore is because he used all that energy as Burning.

This does not in any way contradict the canonical fact his energy capacity is massively amped in GvK

Already addressed above.

It was not addressed above.

Grasping at straws.

Kongs blows knocked around Godzilla more than gravity beasm did. Cope.

I don't see anywhere where we debated Mechagodzilla vs Godzilla.

I'd link it but you said that doesn't work for you so look harder.

That's not how it works.

Yes. It is.

He one shot Rodan.

No. He didn't. They had a prolonged fight where both damaged each other. This is stated in the novel. Shown in the movie and stated in the movie. You're just in denial at this point.

He wasn't off guard, the only reason he was even jumping around was to avoid the AB and his entire back was set on fire.

He was midair with his back turned and therefore could not brace. Same sitiuation.

It clearly did damage to him, it set his entire back on fire.

Did no lasting damage. Proven with the screenshots already posted in the thread.

He does within the first 15 seconds of this video.

Lol he's not trying to fly away with him there his just lifting him for a slam.

That gives Godzilla more than enough time to recover.

Except he's not recovered he's still limping back. This is confirmed in the novel as well.

Regardless the Arctic fight can't count as a W for Godzilla since Ghidorah clearly had the upper hand. It's either a stalemate or a W for Ghidorah.

Its similar to the Skar vs Kong fight. Ghidorah knew it couldn't win and elected to retreat. It feared Godzilla.

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You yourself said that it's "unquantifiable" so how am I supposed to prove sum unquantifiable to you?

Lol its unquantifiable period. Which is why this argument doesn't work.

I never said that.

Then you have no point of comparison.

Skars durability clearly scales to the graze because he shrugged it off.

Concession accepted. Won't be addressing this point in the future as you've admitted its fault.

@jurance:

The statements are random and are contradicted by feats.

They're not random and are corroborated by feats.

The amp can't perma change him if it wore off. He's more agile and faster in GvK but that's it.

False. His changes are canonical fact and not up for debate.

Key word:Charged.

Still has to have the energy reserves to do it. This argument only cements Burnings inferiority if you wish to continue to pursue it.

None of that means much but Kong was still able to flinch GvK Godzilla while Ghidorah's gravity beams could not do the same to Burning.

This simply scales his physical strikes above the gravity beams.

So Burning's pulses are on a different level. Glad you agree.

They're a different kind of attack. Not a specifically superior one.

Me and you never even debated this until now so where is the so called "debunk"?

We actually have. Re-read the thread.

If you don't know what a feat is you should've just asked but honestly I'm not sure how I should even explain it to you.

A feat by definition is simply the action. Godzilla gaining the 20x amp is a measured achievement and therefore feat in the movie.

It does not matter if Godzilla is 20x stronger or not,

Then concede the thread.

Because he wasn't flying for most of hiss figh?

The one one he is it did nothing and he took damage from Rodan lol.

Bad take. Ghidorah was off guard

So was Kong but you didn't feel like recognizing that.

Ghidorah tanked the atomic breath again for 19 seconds straight with little damage.

Prove it would kill Kong as the only time he was hit by AB it did no damage as I rpoved above.

Ghidorah was aso able to carry him tens of thousands of meters in the air meanwhile prior to the amp he could only carry Godzilla a few hundred meters in the air.

He never tried carrying him before lol.

Already debunked.

Its flat on screen in the movie it can't be debunked.

Do you see him leaning on buildings?

Yep

He did win. He was able to knock over Godzilla for some time with his gravity beams. He clearly had the upper hand.

He was able to knock him down a hole. He did no damage otherwise. He got lucky due to the environment.

you already forgot about what we were talking about? 20x amp. That's what we were talking about.

Wow you really can't keep up.

Let's keep it simple. Here's what you have to do.

1. I've proved that a direct hit from GvK Godzillas AB did no lasting damage to Kong. Accept this reality.

2. You have to prove how this compares to a graze from the same beam and then x20 it and pray it comes out as higher than the full beam.

3. You have to prove that Skars durability is below GvK era Kongs

4. You have to prove Skars durability doesn't simply scale to that level.

Until you perform 2, 3 and 4 you have no argument.

@jurance:

So you would believe something that is illogical and has zero evidence just because someone said so?

A random someone? No. These statements aren't from random someones though so this is an irrelevent argument.

The amp wore off.

It permantly changed him. This is further expanded on in the GvK. He feels stronger and can now sense life forces around the entire planet.

Hollow Earth drill was not a regular atomic breath. It was charged.

Doesn't matter. He still had to have the energy to do it. I'll take this as a concession.

Godzilla still struggled with him even in round 3

Kong blindsided him and barely lasted a minute. He got absolutely bullied.

while Burning Godzilla fodderized Ghidorah with zero diff.

Because one fight is CQC and one isn't.

Doesn't matter, he still got beat up so bad that even if he was at full power he'd still lose but with more diff.

Baseless and debunked by statements.

Ghidorah nearly killed him after eating the power grid. Mothra's life energy saved him.

Exactly. He needed an amp.

I asked forfeatsnot statements.

Lol they literally put 20x on the screen its been a week and you're still coping so hard. Where do you think those readings came from? They had to be detected. He's actively containing that energy. Its a feat.

Ghidorah did it just by flying.

And its played zero role in any of his fights.

He had an entire army to help him gain the upper hand if the gap between him and Kong was really that big.

This isn't a counterpoint.

He can't be harmed by a direct hit yet that same direct hit sent him flying and scraped his back, lighting it on fire. Makes sense.

As shown in the screenshots above it did no damage. Ghidorah was also scorched and put on his ass by a weaker version of that attack

Godzilla was trying to break free but lost his grip because of Ghidorahs choke hold. Superior physical strength was required to do this.

Choking someone does not require physical superiority. Godzilla is injured and can barely stand

Wdym he was moving perfectly fine.

I've already shown you him limping and having to lean on buildings with gouges on his face. He's not fine lol.

Ghidorah won the Arctic fight and the water one was unfair since it's literally Godzilla's domain while Ghidorah can't swim.

He didn't win. In fact novel confirms he had to retreat because he realised he couldn't win had to gather more power.

Why would I need to when it's a 20x amp.

20x of what? Lol. You have nothing until you can quantify the graze.