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I see, people haven't stop entertaining

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What kind of logic is that?

According to you Garou is faster but TTM manage to tag him? So question is Is TTM has reaction speed to match Garou or are you saying TTM has faster attack speed?

I cannot grab what you are saying so, a little explanation will help. And the question still stand how fast is Garou? And was Garou going all out against TTM?

IIRC Garou has been tagged by arrows. Not saying Garou can be tagged by arrows all the time, just saying he doesn't goes full speed or all out all the time. He tends to get stronger after getting beat down.

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Everyone is assuming TTM is faster. SHow me a speed feat from TTM?

He caught Hero Hunter Garou off-guard at least 3 times

How is that translate to TTM is faster? Just give me the full scenario

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Everyone is assuming TTM is faster. SHow me a speed feat from TTM?

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#6  Edited By great_black_star

I don't know why people simply ignores one's ability and state their favourable character win/stomp without any consideration. One should consider both character's abilities, their advantages as well as their weaknesses along with their characteristics.

Tatsumaki here definitely has huge advantage when it comes to destructive ability, and having telekenesis as her arsenal means most of physical attacks will be simply blown away. So CQC (Where Itachi easily outclassed her) and any projectile will be countered hard by her. Having said that she doesn't have the versatility that Itachi have.

Her overconfidence and superiority complex is a huge problem with her, those traits make her never to start with full force.

And when it comes to speed, she definitely seems slower than Itachi.

Lets look at Itachi.

Itachi is a very humble and very cautious shinobi, who has never ever underestimated his opponent ever. It is very in character for him to start a fight with genjutsu before using any physical attacks. When pressed he will use Tsukyomi and amaterasu.

Ironically, Tatsumaki has no counter for genjutsu (definitely not tsukyomi) or amaterasu. So looking at their arsenals and their characters, I will give Itachi the clear win.

Even if they start with bloodlusted, Itachi has feat that puts him above Tatsumaki's speed, Itachi will always land Genjutsu before any of Tatsumaki's TK hit him.

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# Both are at there best, no holding back.

# Both are fighting to kill.

Who will win?

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Edo Itachi must win this. With unlimited chakra comes unlimited amaterasu and susanoo with totsuka. Both of them will end Minato while Minato isn't getting past Susanoo unless Minato is allowed to use Kyuubi.

first off everyone has unlimited chakra and unlimited stamina in edo so that makes 0 sense

secondly you cant just over use/spam amaterasu jutsus have cool downs

thirdly you dont get how minato's jutsu works he can teleport and move super fast and he is getting through susanoo without kyuubi He can easily tp from under or tp inside the susanoo beat the crap out of itachi or even a rasengan can rip through

1. I was pointing at Itachi's arsenal which will never run out. Never said Minato doesn't have unlimited chakra. But having unlimited chakra is more favorable to Itachi than to Minato.

2. When did amaterasu have cooldown? Provide me the scan. As far as I know Itachi can spam it as long as he has enough chakra

3. I don't think you have understand how flying raijin works. MInato cannot teleport inside susanoo unless he has already mark somewhere inside the susanoo. Rasengan cannot do anything to Susanoo, and with yata mirror Minato has no arsenal to even make a threat to Itachi's susanoo.

The moment Itachi catch Minato with any of his attack is game over for Minato.

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Jellal wins.

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Recall how Orochimaru said he would die from a KN4 TBB if it him? Well, Jellal certainly oneshots him with this that he did in pre-time skip:

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Show me the damage afterward of that flashy attack and lets see how much damage it caused.

Really dude? That blast is clearly above Orochimaru's pay grade. Orohcimaru's only chance here is poison, genjutsu, or some other trick. He clearly isn't coming out of that blast without at least being horribly injured, and this was pre time skip Jellal.

Blast AOE is not directly proportional to AP. Natsu always make big boom without any significant damage to the surrounding.

I want to know how much damage it has caused to know its AP. Only then I can make any argument on who win.

THere are also many factors which decide the battle like Character's speed, intellect hax etc. So I would like to look into all that.

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Alright, so right off the bat, there's an issue: Itachi isn't using Amaterasu and Tsukyomi at the same time, using both in the same day almost drains his chakra; using both in one fight would kill him.

Also, Pain can't summon the other Paths if Amaterasu is running amuck. That shit is hot and deadly, increasing his own numbers would be a mistake at this point. The battlefield is on fire and Itachi won't be able to control it all.

Kage most likely get the opening move since they have the faster shinobi.

Itachi doesn't have to use both, Amaterasu will do the job. And Itachi did use all three of his MS arsenal against Sasuke. PLus, Itachi doesn't has to worry about draining chakra when he is with every Akatsuki members, and Kisame can replenish chakra.

Pain can summon, coz Kages aren't sticking together and Itachi knows who to attack and how to extinguish the flame. Battlefield won't be on fire, Kage will be on the fire. And Raikage being fastest means nothing, if he can blitz everyone, wouldn't he be called the strongest shinobi alive? Wouldn't be undefeatable? LOL he can't even blitz inexperienced Sasuke.

Not even almost. Rasa and Gaara raise massive walls of sand to block his visuals while aach Tsuchikage opens the earth to swallow them. The effectively roll the burning terrain into a pit with the Akatsuki but some will escape....That's it for Hidan though.

Why would Gaara and Rasa build massive wall? What would kage do behind the wall? You think opening terrain will help against Akatsuki?

Hidan can simply jump off or Kakuzu will simply snap him. All these assuming Ohnoki doesn't get roasted in Itachi already.

Ohnoki and Muu have long-ranged attacks, as do the Mizukages, Kazekages, and even Hiruzen; flight will avail them not. It's a 4v4 possibility, with each team possessing 4 members proficient in aerial combat but Konan won't be very useful. Her paper can hold up to water/oil/sand/gold, it'll be too heavy to use; 3v4 kage's favor.

Long range ninjutsu isn't working, have you forgot that Akaktsuki has Kiasme and Pain which can nullify any ninjutsu? Every ninjutsu Kagaes throw at Akatsuki get eaten by Pain or Kisame. Konan is a perfect match for both Kazekages and Tsunade. Physical attacks aren't going to work on her. With HIdan's durability and immortality, Hidan and KOnan will play the of distracting the whoever Kages remaining from Itachi's amaterasu onslaught.

Water doesn't affect Konan's paper. REad her fight against Jiraiya. 2nd MIzukage is the only one that can stop her but, he isn't fast enough to survive amatersu sniping, or strong enough to survive village busting shinra tensei.

The idea of Pain, Itachi, and Kisame being able to stop the Raikage Duo is hilarious. First, Kisame=NO. He's a water style ninja that specializes in close combat, they're lightning style; they're gonna destroy him in a single blow, completely one-shot. It's nothing like with Bee, they use lightning armor.

Pain and Itachi can't keep up with them either. Is Itachi supposed to sustain Amaterasu, Tsukyomi, and Susanoo at the same time? Pain could try summoning the other Paths but Hiruzen could arguably solo them with shadow cones, especially if Tsunade and both Mizukage are supporting him. Muu's genjutsu/Steaming Danger Tyranny clones will trample on that Rinnegan hard.

No idea but have you read the fight of KIsame and Killer Bee? Bee is a master lightning user but he get spanked by Kisame along with his bijuu.

Already said Hiruzen's ninjutsu will get nullified already, and he isn't fast enough to evade amatersau. Tsunade is non-factor in this fight. Muu's genjutsu steam by blown by either Kakuzu or Deva Path.

You are absolutely mad, completely insane. A lake against two of the most powerful lightning style users in known history? Where's the Akatsuki gonna go once the battlefield is filed with water and the Mizukages get wet and wild?

This is getting boring. Why don't you read the KIsame vs Bee fight first before making your ridiculous fanfiction?

1. Itachi has the capability to take Tsunade, Ohnoki, Mei, Gengetsu. Rasa, Muu and Hiruzen out of equation immediately. None of them has any answer to amatersau onslaught.

2. Raikage is fast and all but not enough to blitz the Akatsuki. Third Raikage is the only one I can see last standing

3. Gaara's sand will get compromised by Kisame. Ultimately Deidara and Kakuzu along with Sasori will take Ay and Gaara down.

Kisame can create a water dome and drain Third Raikage's chakra until he is exhausted. All of this assuming Pain doesn;t get snap and created a Chibaku Tensei.

Kages are strong but Akatsuki are not only strong but also very versatile. These are the people who hunt Bijuus for a living.