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#1  Edited By Godzilla_BK

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She has taken on Kit Fisto before and won (although Fisto was fatigued). Not only that but her various encounters against Anakin and Obi-wan (both canon and non-canon) easily put her above the feats of Kit Fisto.

Asajj certainly wouldn't have an easy time with Qui-Gon, but again her dueling skills have been enough to combat much more formidable opponents and persevere. Her physical prowess would also be an advantage over Jinn

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The intelligence, damage, and courage levels are completely ridiculous.

Darth Maul is extremely intelligent when it comes to combat, as he manipulated the Duel of Fates to separate Qui-Gon and Obi-wan through the Plasma refinery. That's not even including all the feats to his intelligence related to taking down the Black sun and crippling Bando Gorra, all of which happened even before the Phantom Menace. While Kit Fisto isn't stupid of course, his tendency to lose himself in battle fervor negates much of any opportunity to implement strategic thinking.

Damage is also wrong. Maul has ripped apart wampas and varactyls with his bare hands, and implemented extremely powerful physical strikes into his combative style. His force attacks are also incredibly devastating, as he has repeatedly snapped bones with force crushes and blasted enemies with TK.

I don't even understand what they're trying to convey with the courage category. Is Fisto somehow more brave than Maul? That's a weird assumption. Especially considering the absolutely insane lifestyle Maul lived throughout his entire life. Being constantly beaten, starved, left alone to be hunted by assassin droids, murdering, etc lol. Such a weird category and inference, it really should have been left out entirely.

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Fisto certainly doesn't keep his cool like they are implying too. He is very wild combatant with a very erratic and unpredictable fighting style; it's almost as if they are implying he is some sort of fencer-type fighter like a Makashi specialist.

I LOVE Fisto, and I'm honestly not a fan of Maul. But Maul takes this 7/10 times, and that's being generous.

Darth Plagueis remarked that his combative style (which incorporates several combat forms) has been said to be mastered Pre-PTM, and his feats in killing Bondara and Jinn are easily more impressive than anything Kit has accomplished, though Fisto certainly has some decent feats. While Fisto's martial skill could be argued to be on par with Maul's, I simply believe the Zabrak's to be much more effective and flexible over all.

Force powers, Maul easily has the edge with his insane TK. As far as TK goes, Kit Fisto is pretty standard unless he is underwater, which I am assuming he won't be.

I don't think any argument needs to be given as to why Maul is easily more physically imposing.

So yeah, Maul takes this in a majority. But I love Fisto

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I'd give it to Desann

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I love Ronda, but she wouldn't stand a chance against Bruce. He's too elusive and his striking too powerful and swift.

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@darkdefender: I don't agree with it, but I can certainly respect your opinion. Admittedly I'm probably being a bit harsh on Pong, he could probably take out one based on his physical capability alone.

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@waking_dreamer:

"Just watch the clip again from 2:00, in the jungle Pong Krell easily kills 13 Troopers that were all surrounding him, in only 30 seconds (and that's after he gloats and announces where is - BEFORE he continues to attack). That's not including the 5 (on guard) Troopers he literally curb-stomps (to death) in ONE leap attack as he first engages the platoon tracking him in the jungle."

The methods you would implement both offensively and defensively against multiple blaster opponents are largely different from the methods you would use in a lightsaber duel. Many of the different lightsaber form's strengths and weaknesses support that fact. That's not even mentioning the fact that it's extremely more difficult for non-force sensitives to react and counter the speed of those who are force sensitive, so it comes to no surprise to me Krell was able to overwhelm the clones.

Kanan has also shown himself capable of deflecting blasters from multiple opponents at once in his comic series. Although admittedly, not to the degree Pong has. But again, these are two different types of skills. They speak to *some* capability as a duelist, but not much when there is literally no feats in dueling to support it.

"I have not see anything from Kanan / Grand Inquisitor (who have the most duelling feats) that suggest they can replicate anything close to the same. So when you say Krell would pose only "some trouble" against a lone inquisitor...some people here would disagree."

The Inquisitors don't have to show equal skill in blaster deflection; it is blaster deflection, not lightsaber combat. And they all have shown skill in deflection enough for it not to be of any penalty to their dueling skill, as little as it would even be.

"Remember - Kanan posed a GREAT DEAL of trouble to the one Inquisitor who has the MOST feats."

I see that as a good show of Kanan, not necessarily a bad showing of the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor had bested Kanan and Ezra both on numerous occasions before his defeat. Even then Kanan only bested him after what appeared to be force valor / enhanced focus, which imo is a good showing on Kanan's part, and arguably some WIS lol, but I'll accept it for what it is and not resort to that.

Also I think it is being neglected that the Inquisitors are also rather unorthodox fighters as well, as their rotational sabers are completely unheard of until now. Pong Krell will be equally thrown off, and there are THREE of them. So he has shown no skill in any sort of dueling, let alone being able to defend against a weapon that hasn't existed until Rebels.

I don't dislike Krell like it may seem, but there is nothing to support he would have any drop of a chance of winning this.

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#10  Edited By Godzilla_BK

@thegrayghost: If you want to talk feats, to name a few:

Strength: has physically halted fully grown elephants, thrown a large tree as a spear, ripped through a steel airplane hatch underwater, slammed a rhino (twice), threw a fully grown man over a fence at least 12 feet tall, and snapped several of super skrull's bones.

Speed: Exceeded the speed of Sabertooth, had dodged bullets from multiple gun wielders in various numbers including snipers, speed blitzed Cyclops, Spider-man, Wolverine, and Super Skrull (some on numerous occasions), and has been described as a "blur" or "impossible to see" on plenty of occasions.

Skill: Has bested an enraged Namor in hand to hand combat, has bested and fought equally with Captain America in sparring matches, has bested dozens of Wakanda's "best warriors" single handedly with no weaponry, and has beaten Iron Man while wearing a suit specifically designed to beat him with minimal weapons.

I was wrong in saying that Black Panther surpasses Daredevil in fighting skill, as they are indeed equal. But Black Panther is just as fast, comparably evasive (slight edge to DD), arguably equal in reflexes, and indeed stronger and more durable. I am not attempting to undersell Matt, it would be an awesome fight. But 6-7/10 Panther is going to win it