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Punisher VS Uber Elite Ninja - Tanaka's Daughter - Why he beats Daredevil.

Not much is known about Lady Tanaka's daughter. She's not even given a name and her only background is that she's mute and has been raised since birth by Tanaka and never leaves her side.

Weapons skill:

A Frenchman with a pistol stealthily comes around the corner. He aims to fire when a foot flies out and hits his wrist. His hand the pistol still in it is severed clean. His terrorized POV the smallest figure in black slices with the other foot kicking him in the throat. When the foot comes away a deep gash spurts blood. The black figure takes a handkerchief out of the man's pocket and wipes the side of the bloodied shoe clean.

She has shoe blades that are able to completely cut off a man's hand. And she did this faster than he could fire an already aimed gun. Below is the simplified version from the movie:

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Before they can fire they are subdued. The tall black figure neatly slices one man's head open with a sickle attached to a long chain. The stout black figure throws two three pronged sai which catch another Mafiosa high and low simultaneously. The third is dispatched by the smallest figure who with the flick of her wrist sends a stiletto-thin blade through the man's throat.

Is an excellent knife thrower on par with the 2 Elites or Frank Castle himself.

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In an even more impressive showing. She throws her two bladed earrings simultaneously and pins a Mafia leader to a wall through his hands:

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Stealth:

Castle - Moving along a corridor bloodied but mobile. He opens a shogi screen. His POV. Across the room through the far shogi Tanaka her Daughter and Tommy in silhouette. The daughter's silhouette climbs the wall like a spider disappearing on the roof into the ceiling.

Franco has walked past where Tanaka's daughter is camouflaged into the white ceiling. She makes her way down a short rope and prepares to throw a knife into his back when Castle comes diving through the shogi tackling her into the next shogi wall.

She can climb walls like Spider-Man and is adept at stealth and camouflage. She's able to silently drop behind Franco. And just prior to this Franco was able to out stealth the normal ninjas in their own headquarters.

Punisher takes her out.

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Frank manages to stealth attack her while she is stealth attacking Franco. Impressive. Realistically Dolph Lundgren tackling this girl would have crippled her. This isn't realistic - this is a movie where they are both extremely durable ninja warriors. Daughter getting up after this attack is her own durability feat not one t use against Frank. Once the fight starters she draws out two knives and fails to tag Frank with either kicks or hand strikes.

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More kicks and blades slashes that Frank dodges with ease. Effortlessly countering her agility Frank catches her kick then while still holding her leg blocks her punch. Only with both his arms being used cand she finally land a strike on him with her free hand. This punch doesn't even effect Frank and he tosses her through another wall which seemingly knocks her out.

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She actually feints being knocked out to land a throwing knife in Franks leg. A smart tactic and also the only way she wouldn't have managed such an attack. Below is an excerpt from the script that shows Frank is capable of dodging even her throwing knives:

Castle grasps the woman's wrists. She twists around and under and flips him through the shogi. He rolls and rises. She flicks her wrists a knife barely misses Castle's face and embeds in a beam.

Despite being stabbed in the leg. Frank immediately blocks her kick. Then once again uses his strength advantage to grab her by the throat and pin her to a wall. She pulls off her bladed earrings and cuts both his arms in one move.

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Frank releases her and she pulls out yet another blade. Which he immediately is able to block and disarm her of. He then goes back to pressing his strength and stranglers her once again. She draws her shoe blades and lands a kick across his face.

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Frank despite having been cut across the face with a blade capable of severing limbs or deeply slicing open throats. Is able to not only block her next kick but to control her attack swinging her around the way he wants her. Steps in behind her for yet another chokehold. Well simultaneously avoiding being tagged in the leg by her shoe blades. Then snaps her neck when he decides he's had enough. This being a move he can pull off on either Daredevil or Spartan.

Keep in mind this fight was right after the 2 elites fight. So Frank is showing off some insane stamina.

Here's the full fight if you want to watch it: The Punisher (10/10) Movie CLIP - Maximum Punishment (1989)

Here's how it went in the comic:

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Frank is able to catch her mid attack. He grabs her wrists and despite getting flung around doesnt even let go. Holding her by her wrists while she is wielding a blade. He just leans into her and lands on her making her stab herself. Yet another insanely good showing of him using his size and strength to his advantage.

Frank is so incredibly dangerous because unlike Fisk or Melvin or nameless Dogs of Hell Biker giant. He's so much more than his physical stats. He's a skilled martial artist but knows when it's appropriate to press his strength edge.

Final Thoughts:

Frank is still the the most well armed and physically toughest person here. As shown in this last round of posts it's not impossible to disarm him. But nothing is stopping him from drawing another one of his firearms as soon as it happens.

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Frank is still incredibly deadly with his guns at point blank range.

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Even capable of shooting one of the Elites like this.

Frank is capable of taking down armored opponents. Which is very relevant for this particular battle. Here again is Frank being able to stab through armor superior to that of Daredevils or Spartans:

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In the movie he's actually able to get his firearm around the armor during a melee struggle:

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Frank is more than his guns though. Grenades will make short work of his opponents and being the only guy here who uses blades to take out his enemies is a massive advantage.

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Even without guns/grenades/blades. Frank is still willing to go farther in a fight than either Daredevil or Spartan. He's shown affinity for neck snaps and nutshots as well.

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As shown in the individual fights he has with the Elites prior to the finale fight. Frank uses his environment and anything in it effectively.

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The biggest thing I want to press with this being my final post is that Frank can still make good shots under stress. Here he makes a long range handgun shot while he is running:

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And even more impressive. A Ninja comes up behind Frank and throws a chain over his face. Despite this being painful and blinding. Frank still manages to shoot his original target.

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This showing combined with the showing of shooting the Elite makes me think that the Punisher is fully capable of shooting either Diggle or Matt in combat while fighting either of them or both.

I'm looking forward to your guy's final posts. Sorry I took so long to finish this up. And sorry for the grammar/punctuation errors in my posts. My keyboards comma key doesn't work.

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Punisher VS 2 Elite Ninjas - Why he beats Spartan.

First let's establish the these two ninjas. When they enter the Yakuza Headquarters every other ninja stops what they are doing and bows to them.

First appearance:

The three black garbed figures landing on the deck. The two bigger ones spring into action decimating the six crew men with throwing stars Okinawan hand sickles and their deadly karate hands and feet. Their work is swift brutal. They are invincible.

Sato - The tall one.

Strength:

Tommy drops the gun. Sato drops the child and backhands Tommy across the room.

Tommy is the 12 year old son of Johnny Franco. He's a kid but still a serious badass in the movie. Obviously manhandling a kid is hardly impressive. But this is just a script quote. In the film Sato is able to wrestle with the Punisher who always easily overpowers the normal ninjas.

Speed:

The tallest black figure springs out and throws his sickle and chain. Castle raises his shotgun and catches the sickles deadly blade. He twists down blowing the chain apart and blasts again at this attacker. The black figure dives into the shadows.

Dodges a shotgun blast from the Punisher.

The kids run down the stairs. Sato at the bottom looks up. Tommy fires 3 shots at him. Sato ducks back.

Dodges 3 handgun shots from Tommy. Who had just speared a yakuza and then shot another.

Castle with Tommy half out the window throws his knife. Sato ducks. The knife slams the door shut revealing one the little children behind it scared sucking her thumb.

Able to dodge a throwing knife from Castle despite him always tagging everyone else no problem.

Accuracy:

Before they can fire they are subdued. The tall black figure neatly slices one man's head open with a sickle attached to a long chain.

Sato is very dangerous with his "Nobu" style chain blade.

Here is a short encounter between Castle and Sato:

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While Frank is distracted by a little girl. Sate jumps him and manages to disarm him. They have a brief struggle which shows physical equality. Tommy interrupts the fight. Castle capitalizes on the interruption by grabbing a pipe which gives him the necessary damage output to drop Sato instantly.

Tomio - The stout one.

Strength:

As Frank turns the corner a hand grabs his arm. He is flung into a sheaf of boards. Tomio kiais loudly and attacks with a large punch. Castle ducks. The punch smashes through the beam behind him cracking it with awesome force.

Is strong enough to fling 6'4" 220 lb Frank. Also strong enough to crack a wooden beam.

Accuracy:

Before they can fire they are subdued. The tall black figure neatly slices one man's head open with a sickle attached to a long chain. The stout black figure throws two three pronged sai which catch another Mafiosa high and low simultaneously.

Throws his sai with deadly perfection.

Out of nowhere a sai is thrown hitting Castles shotgun out of his hands. The stout black figure charges with two sai raised.

Is even able to disarm Frank of his shotgun with a sai throw.

But what happens when Tomio tries to actually hit Frank with a sai throw?

Out of nowhere a sai is thrown hitting Castles shotgun out of his hands. The stout black figure charges with two sai raised. Castle ducks behind a pillar as a sai aimed for his head hits. He ducks behind a second pillar as another crashes into it. He grabs a block and tackle with a rotting netting and swings it entangling his assailant.

He can't tag him. Frank dodges the throwing knives and just like he did against Sato he used a weapon from the environment to incapacitate his opponent.

Takes them on back to back:

After Frank and Johnny shoot down that army of ninjas. They split up when storming the Yakuza Headquarters. Here is the start of Frank's encounter with the 2 Elites.

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Both of the ninjas don suits of armor and try to stealth attack Frank. Punisher's senses being too keen alert him to the first attacker Sato. Frank uses the butt of his shotgun to strike Sato across the face knocking him out immediately. So while Diggle might be physically close to Frank. He can still get dropped easy when Frank uses a weapon to amplify his striking power.

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Tomio then attacks Frank with his "Nobu" chain blade. He disarms him of his shotgun. But then Frank is able to dodge multiple swings before being grazed across the chest. A wound he wouldn't have even suffered if he was wearing his bullet proof vest here. The impressive thing is that after being tagged it doesn't stop Frank from being able to dodge the immediate subsequent attacks. Compare this to Daredevil's fight with Nobu where after being sliced across the arms he's soon tagged again across the chest and then the back as well. After dodging all these attacks Frank is able to land a wicked spin kick on his opponent to gain some distance.

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Doing this gave him enough time to grab a bladed staff and easily disarm his opponent of their ranged weapon. Tomio then impressively breaks the staff with a jump kick.

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From there the fight becomes H2H. Frank is able to force his opponent on the defense with his attacks and then Frank uses his size advantage to land a sweet tackle on Tomio. Both Diggle or Matt would certainly be hurt from either a full ledge kick to the face from this giant or a full on charging tackle.

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Tomio realizes he is overpowered by Frank's upper body strength and switches tactics and goes for a series of powerful kicks. An impressive display of both lowkicks and highkicks. All Frank needs to do to take back the edge though is land a well timed elbow to Tomios face and then again grabs an environmental weapon another bladed staff and stabs Tomio through his body armor and lifts his entire body up and pins him to the wall for good measure.

Here's the full fight if you want to watch in without interruption - The Punisher (9/10) Movie CLIP - Double the Punishment (1989).

Now this was a very impressive pure melee encounter. But now I'll show how the fight went down in the comic adaption.

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The Ninjas try the same stealth attack. This time they are a little more successful as one of them is able to tag Frank in the chest with a sai. Fortunately this time Frank is wearing his bullet proof vest and it actually manages to stop the blade. (More proof that this vest is better than Diggle's and another great feat of strength for Punisher as he was able to stab through Franco's vest). Punisher then easily rolls with the attacker and fires a shot into him at point blank while upside down. (Given that I showed these Ninjas previously dodge gunfire it makes this more impressive. He could definitely tag Matt or Diggle in close combat this way). That last shot was conveniently his last. Frank picks up a sword and loses a short encounter (blame the simplified fights in this very short adaption of the film not Franks lack of skill by any means). The bomb set off by Shake throws the ninja off balance and Frank instantly recovers and lands a perfect sword strike to the neck. (Another showing of Frank targeting the throat the same way he can in a fight with his armored opponents here).

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Sam and Dean Winchester cause they are brothers and anything is possible through two brothers doing the best they can.

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Damn. I want to see some feats for the Dying Light guy

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Michael already beat Dwight and then spit in his mouth