@toratorn: Running away? I’ve been smacking you around for quite some time now. I’ll respond to both posts when i get access to a computer, i don’t that much time to spare and you failing to see this makes me question just how much you remember the previous ass whoopsi gave you. As it is right now you’re pulling the same mindless wank agenda as always. Is a running meme right now. “I was a noob back then”... Just a little bit less paint doses if you ask me. Just sit tight Jebediah.
@toratorn: Ben got the upperhand while having an unmeasurable amp, without it he got beaten down and even then a slightly cunning Hulk outsmarted his dumb ass. Stop ignoring context for shit’s sake. Is like a serious mythomania case.
@toratorn: It was confirmed in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Alternate Universes from 2005 that Gladiator was from the same universe as The Reigning, Earth-3545, which is an entirely different universe from Earth 616. Moreover all future timelines are considered separated universes by Marvel’s own admission, that’s just how it works for regardless of you grasping it or not.
This is the same reason why Gladiator from 200 years into the future was also considered from another universe entirely when he fought Earth 616 Thor and the F4.
For Hulk, Hulk was not Professor Hulk by the time The Reigning started happening, in fact, he stopped being Professor Hulk 6 years before these events took place and never was used again outside of Hulk’s own mind. He even died before all of this was even implied and revived into a Savage Hulk again.
You have no idea whatsoever besides wishful thinking to assume all characters were identical to their 616 counterparts. Literally no base to claim this, is flat out fallacious and ignorant in nature.
As for Aaron’s Hulk, he screamed in pain with the first injection, meaning it had effect on him from the start. The fact he stated it was weakening him by the 4th time he was injected doesn’t mean he wasn’t being affected from the start, all the time he was busy fighting people and he didn’t know what was going on with him and even Wolverine noted he was acting strange. Give me a motherfreaking break now. This absurd and irrational admiration for Ben shouldn’t justify the will to let context behind. Hulk was weakened, period.
@toratorn: That alternative universe was already created considering a Gladiator sent by Odin in that timeline fought Earth-616 Thor to prevent The Reigning from happening. The whole thing was another universe even before the story took place in the comics. It is worthless feat-wise. Not to mention it was out of place for Hulk’s incarnation. All in all... Why cite it? Same thing for Aaron’s Hulk. He was weakened all the time.