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How do you manage to misinterpretate this, to a fucking lake?

A being that transcends space and time, and that guards over literal points in time through those separated portals, with the same portals bringing to different time axis, completely independent from one another...a being that guards over a lake?

He is literally he who guards time and space, even in G Assassin and G Requiem confirmed. Shura mentions him in Assassin as the god of time and so does Arges when she apparently summons Shura to help Seiya.

This is not a misnterpretation, it's directly confirmed to be a lake on Olympus, which is a place on Earth.

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It's a lake-like structure comprised of instead of water, Nebula portals that lead to other points in time. It's never stated to transcend space and time in adequate translations, and doesn't transcend time in a literal sense either, because it's just a place where there are portals.

He only guards the Lake on Olympus that contains these portals, and these time axes are confirmed to be different time periods of the universe via being directly stated, this is why Saori goes to the past through one in an attempt to change the present.

If Chronos isn't even low multiversal, Mechikabura isn't even universal, coz I could just claim he absorbed time and nothing else, thus unquantifiable and a fodder feat.

Mechikabura absorbed actual physical timelines into his body, this is not the same as Chronos who only rules over a place that contains portals that can be used for time travel to other time periods of the universe, and doesn't actually contain anything.

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@username_new: I'll sleep quite well knowing the people who know this series better than anyone coincide with me and leave people like you with no counterargument.

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@gelato_exotic: But Chronus>>>>>Hades who can hold 3 dimensions with his power and will

Two dimensions, not three, and these dimensions have no confirmed size of a universe or anything up to that level (one of these dimensions is only planet sized if we calculate it based on mach speed characters crossing it in a relative timeframe) to say it's a relevant to DBS characters.

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@username_new: No one is spreading nonsense but you. This scene of Agyo and Ugyo are stated directly to be symbolism, I even asked Shady himself directly about this and he confirmed this information and even sent me an updated translation of it, because instead of just arguing against me, it'll be a lot more interesting to see you cope over what the best translator who's broken the series down front to back says is the case.

The entire scene is a metaphorical description that has nothing to do with destructive power and is just a reference to the naming scheme of the attacks (Agyo/Ugyo) which are taken from Buddhism, the Guardians of Buddha that symbolize life and death.

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Likewise for Agyo/Ugyo, Kurumada puts a spin on that by saying the represent the life of the universe and death of the universe due to Saint Seiya's outer space theme.

Contextually, the fact that Agyo/Ugyo takes place inside the Virgo Temple and universes aren't the size of Temples and the visual shows alligators and random animals being bigger than galaxies are other blatant confirmations of it being metaphorical. Not to mention the fact that Agyo/Ugyo are just regular Cosmo energy blasts and don't have the hax to literally create a universe or any nonsense like that and we can even see that in the panel.

Mu's feat isn't canon and is literally irrelevant to DB characters even if it were, so is Galaxian Explosion.

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@berberiot: No idea in hell where you heard that from

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>Gives the most thorough explanation credited to the best translators and translations and cross references to other parts of the story to explain the situation in perfect context

>Someone with no argument: REEEE LOWBALLER 🤓

How the hell is that lowballing? No wonder I don't come to this forum anymore nowadays.

Chronos rules over a lake (which is contained on planet Earth) that contains portals (not actual universes, portals) that allow time travel to different points in time of the universe. He doesn't encompass or scale to any cosmology (he's literally formless lol), and isn't even low multiversal or even really shown anything for a concrete universe level tiering either.

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Even Shady himself has confirmed everything I explained to be the case and this is also reflected in his translation of ND (which is objectively the most accurate version out there.

Go ahead though, embarrass the Saint Seiya side even further in these threads and call an unbiased primary translator who's dissected this series word for word front to back and doesn't even participate in Vs Battles a lowballer too.

Chronos still gets stomped by DBS' lowest tiers from the virtue of being completely featless and vaguely scaling above characters who already lose.

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@enviid said:

The best ones that are on this website aren't even on this list. It's me and @gelato_exotic by a lot and then there's the rest.