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Gajeel>Nozel. Gajeel eats his mercury

Natsu>>>Sisgoleon & Fuegoleon. He just eats them

Laxus eats Luck

Noelle>Juvia

Yami>Erza

Wendy> Spirit Dive Yuno

Ultear>Julius in time magic

Langris & Finral>Minerva

Julius is more versatile and his speed is in a completely different league. He could take out Ultear easily before she can even cast a spell.

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You guys underrated erza so much. And saber isn't immune to the magic in FT. Magic in FT and magic in Fate/stay night & zero are two diff. things, so it means saber can't block erza's attacks. Based on my observation, saber's excalibur can exert powerful blast to the ground(even in water) in any direction, but it can't slice an entire land mass. And erza just block an island-spliting attack(or even a whole continent if its whole power) from kagura with just a few scratches. Do you guys think that saber can match it with the excalibur or the avalon? I don't think so.

Kagura is a nobody compared Saber and some top tier Fate servants. Kagura is only relevant for one arc and she's basically fodder after that without support from other fighters. Why are you bigging up a character who's been stomped in almost every one on one clash she's ever had as if she's on Saber's level? And Saber doesn't need to block Erza's attacks because they are way too slow to even touch her. The speed difference between the two characters is insane if you read the novels. You can't expect Saber to just stand around and wait to be hit in a fight to the death.

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@galanakagalactus1212 said:
@killbilly said:
@wot_m8 said:

"Saitama is limitless gg, lul one punch hurr durr joke character lul gg"

These are the majority of OPM fanboy arguments.

I wouldn't really classify it as an "argument" just an attempt to get people to understand context and narrative.

No it's the brain-dead fans of OPM who don't understand the franchise. Funny how fans of other joke gimmicky characters such as Squirrel Girl, Deadpool, Lobo etc still use actual feats when comparing their character but Saitama fans don't yet they still wanna debate him as one of the strongest fictional characters of all time. If you want to treat the character like a joke then fine but then don't compare him to Superman, Hulk, Goku etc as if he's done anything anywhere near to the level of these characters. Besides even if you wanna use OPM fans wanna use idiotic arguments it really doesn't matter because other fictional characters don't abide by the rules of his franchise. Just because Saitama can one shot the weaklings in his franchise doesn't automatically mean he can one shot anybody from any fictional franchise. Somebody like Goku would splatter Saitama in nanoseconds if they were to fight outside of both their franchises on neutral ground.

I don't really see how what you said suggests they don't understand the franchise. I agree that if people view him as a "joke" character they shouldn't be making battle threads of him but I think most people make those kind of threads to see responses like yours and be entertained by them as opposed to actually believing the opposing character might pose a challenge to the character.

All you have to do is read some of the replies on this thread and you can see the OPM don't understand the franchise. I mean as I've already pointed out their are fans who are so deluded that they seriously think Saitama has toon force and liken him to Bugs Bunny which is completely laughable. Saitama lives in his own little universe with it's own rules which don't apply outside of his franchise. You can't just say throw him in the Marvel or DC universe and he can one shot everybody because he can't. OPM are too brain-dead to understand satire because if they did they would never compare him to characters like Superman and others in the first place. OPM satire only works because he exists in his own franchise with his own rules where everyone's power is scaled around him. Why do you think Marvel never uses characters like Squirrel Girl in any of their serious storylines? It's because her character works best when she's more secluded from most of the Marvel franchise. And you can lie all you want but we've all had those convos with OPM fans where they genuinely think he's as flash, that he can punch harder than the Hulk or that he can take on Superman in a fight. Like i said before Saitama is a satire character who's fans are too stupid to understand Satire. He is by far the most overrated protagonist ever in anime. I can't think of any other anime protagonist who even comes close. Also he has easily one of the dumbest anime fanbases on the planet since they can't understand their own franchise.

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@wot_m8 said:

"Saitama is limitless gg, lul one punch hurr durr joke character lul gg"

These are the majority of OPM fanboy arguments.

I wouldn't really classify it as an "argument" just an attempt to get people to understand context and narrative.

No it's the brain-dead fans of OPM who don't understand the franchise. Funny how fans of other joke gimmicky characters such as Squirrel Girl, Deadpool, Lobo etc still use actual feats when comparing their character but Saitama fans don't yet they still wanna debate him as one of the strongest fictional characters of all time. If you want to treat the character like a joke then fine but then don't compare him to Superman, Hulk, Goku etc as if he's done anything anywhere near to the level of these characters. Besides even if you wanna use OPM fans wanna use idiotic arguments it really doesn't matter because other fictional characters don't abide by the rules of his franchise. Just because Saitama can one shot the weaklings in his franchise doesn't automatically mean he can one shot anybody from any fictional franchise. Somebody like Goku would splatter Saitama in nanoseconds if they were to fight outside of both their franchises on neutral ground.

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@super saiyan videl: No, the joke is that he literally does not have limits.

He's as powerful as the situation calls for. That's why it's stupid to use him in battles.

That's a non argument. Both Superman and the Hulk have been stated to have no limits both in comics and outside the comics by the actual writers but we still only judge them by their actual feats and what they have already done so the same applies to Saitama. You can't compare Bugs Bunny to Saitama because in Bugs Bunny's universe everybody has toonforce. That's just how the Loonytoons universe works. In Saitama universe that's not the case and nobody in his franchise has toonforce you moron.

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@galanakagalactus1212: I doesn't matter what sword Gilgamesh uses because Magneto can use every single sword he has against him like he's done with Mjolnir and other powerful metal weapons used against him.

EcoBlitz covered this.

Gilgamesh ain't some skilled warrior

With SNI, Gilgamesh is omniscient and knows every correct move to make, meaning he is the best a swordsman can possibly get.

projectile swords are pretty much a non factor in this debate since they would do literally nothing

Good thing Gilgamesh has other things than swords, such as guns and space ships.

Magneto has fought ice users that are in a completely different league to anyone in the Fate franchise.

The Nasuverse has several multiversal beings who solo most of Marvel. Hell, Arcueid solos all of Marvel. Magneto beyond the Nasuverse my ass.

Both characters at their best Gil wouldn't even be able to scratch Magneto.

So Magneto is going to body an 8-D multiversal god killer? Give me a break. You know nothing of Gilgamesh or the Nasuverse. Gilgamesh at his strongest solos Marvel with Enuma Elish since the damage cannot be defended against and kills beings without concepts.

Nobody in the Nasuverse can come anywhere close to soloing Marvel so settle down. Since is being able to destroy a multiverse a big deal anymore by comic book standards? This ain't the 50's, their are thousands of comic book characters with that kind of power and characters in Marvel with power beyond that. Don't delude yourself kiddo. Their are characters in Marvel who can destroy multiverses and wouldn't even be ranked in the top 30 most powerful Marvel characters. Besides none of this changes my original point which is that Magneto has fought ice users before who are complete powerhouses so any ice based weapon would be laughable by comparison. My point stands because it's true. Most of Gilgamesh's weapons would be child splay against a character who doesn't know Magneto's powers. Like i said it depends on what version of Gil but if it's Gil in full plate armour like he had in Fate Zero then Magneto would splatter him instantly. Gil would stand a better chance if he knew his powers beforehand because his most common style of fighting would only put him at a disadvantage against Magneto. Oh and on a side note i really don't see what his ship is supposed to do either. It didn't look like anything special when he used it in the anime. I don't see any reason why Magneto could take it down.

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@kingofmemes said:

What does standard gear mean for Gil? If he can use Ea he wins, I doubt Magneto would "crush" it. Gil has inexhaustible resources in his GoB, I know for sure he could pull something out that would beat Magneto. Worst comes to worst Gilgamesh has an ice sword he could bring out. Imagine him shooting his weapons at you from every direction, his chains coming from every direction. Magneto won't have time to stop them all before Gil uses Ea.

If he is in character though Gil will probably be to cocky to bring out Ea. I still think he would win though

I doesn't matter what sword Gilgamesh uses because Magneto can use every single sword he has against him like he's done with Mjolnir and other powerful metal weapons used against him. Gilgamesh ain't some skilled warrior so Magneto should be able to disarm him or destroy most of the weapons he wields and projectile swords are pretty much a non factor in this debate since they would do literally nothing. And i doubt an ice sword would work either since Magneto has fought ice users that are in a completely different league to anyone in the Fate franchise. Magneto wins and if this is Gilgamesh in full plate armour like in Zero then this is a gigantic curbstomb for him. Both characters at their best Gil wouldn't even be able to scratch Magneto.

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@kanesada_kuji: Well i guess then it would depend on morals because allot of the time Gilgamesh doesn't go all out at the start of a fight aside from his fight with rider. If Gil recognised Byakuya as a worthy opponent then he might not hold back from the start.

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