No explanation of why Odin couldn't Pick up a Hammer HE FREAKING CREATED
No explanation of why Jane Foster is worthy of the hammer. She is NOTHING like any previous worthy one
No explanation of how/why the inscription on the hammer changed. Only Odin has the power to do that, or something more powerful than Odin did it. BUT WE ARE READERS STILL HAVE NO CLUE AFTER HOW MANY ISSUES?
No explanation of how Jane even ended up on the Moon
No explanation of why Thor can't pick up the Hammer
No explanation of what Nick Fury whispered to Thor to make him Unworthy.
No explanation of why the Hammer is killing Jane DESPITE The fact there is ALREADY a precedent that the hammer HEALS its wielder.
No explanation of why the hammer turned Jane into "Thor" even though no previous wielder was turned into Thor. Other than Thor's mortal persona, no one has ever changed INTO Thor by wielding his hammer
No explanation of why the hammer is more responsive to Jane(a non Asgardian), than it is to Thor (the guy whose power and name is literally on the hammer)
1) This is a plot point\new development. It's not a retcon, it's not a mistake, it's something new. I guess you're real fun in superman forums complaining about superman's new power, or how it had a depowering effect because that's never happened before. It is acknowledged as new in the story, and the series is only 9 issues in. Just because it isn't instantly explained in an essay doesn't mean it won't be.
2) Really? Dargo was just some kid who grabbed it in self defense. It was never explained what made him worthy, other than being a Thor fanboy. It was never explained why Eric was either. Sure he jumped into danger to help Thor and was able to lift it, but his worthy was never explained.
3) Well the hammer was given basic AI to determine worthiness. Why is a hammer that can decide worthiness OK, but one that can cosmetically change its inscription to match the gender of the wielder some amazing thing that requires all caps?
4) Yes it was. She was living in Asgardia... And when Thor Odinson was having his week long sulk, a huge group from Asgardia were all standing around watching and chatting and maybe placing bets on when he'd get up. It was on a spot where people could breathe. It's hardly amazing to think she stuck around after everybody left.
5) He's not worthy at the moment. And it's only 9 issues in and they haven't explained what made him unworthy.
6) Oh, so you do recognize he is unworthy. Why make two bullet points?
7) It's damaging her body with the transformation back to human. Shocking her already weakened system. When did it previously heal the human forms? Besides, cancer isn't an injury. It's her own cells. If you're insisting it should heal her, it'd just heal all the fast growth cells the chemo therapy kills, including the cancer.
8) Dargo, Eric, and Beta Ray Bill all transformed into Thor forms when they wielded the hammer. Even inverted Loki did as well. She didn't turn into Thor. She refused to call herself Thor. Something Dargo and Eric both did immediately upon transformation. So where did you hear she "turned into thor"?
9) Eh, again, it hasn't been explained. There are theories. My theory is that the growth of the enchantment hinted in issue one prefers Jane because she is human and not over powered by Odinson's own Godness, so they can work more together.
Honest question. When watching comics, or books, or watching movies, do you insist every detail be explained immediately?
@lordraiden: Either way, his mortal form wasn't healed. And you're right about Bill, Odin reverted him to his original non enhanced form before giving him Stormbreaker. But:
I wasn't aware that Mjolnir had healing properties or was suppose to heal it's users human/original body automatically by simply wielding it?
Wasn't that due originally to Odin? Who did that to teach him humility? Probably all retconned nowdays.
The real Blake had a limp, and Odin copied Blake's form for Thor's mortal body. So Thor's mortal body had a limp. But after he got Mjolnir, either Odin had to prevent Mjolnir from healing the limp, or Mjolnir doesn't magically heal the human form. Since it didn't cure Masterson's eyes, and hasn't cured Jane's cancer, I'm going to go with not healing the human form.
The entire premise of this character destroys established precedent. Odin not being able to pick up his own hammer. Thor becoming unworthy for no reason. 1)The inscription of the hammer changing. 2)The definition of worthy expanding(Pre-Thor Jane is not worthy...). 3)The hammer changing a persons name rather than their power level.
This book is an insult to YEARS of Thor continuity.... 4)and the only problem that matters is that it is for some reason not healing her? Here is the answer! Because PLOT DEVICE. Plot Indiced Stupdity by definition means, a character forgetting they have a specific ability so that the scenario has a false sense of danger. In this case, Mjolnir forgets that it can heal people!!!
1) Your only basis on this is What if... stories. Are we going to make all What if... stories canon now? That'd be fun.
2) Saying Jane is not worthy contradicts talking about the inscription. A What if... had her worthy. You'll have to pick one or the other.
3) Wah? Picking up the hammer didn't change her name. Now I'm convinced you didn't actually read the series, or past series...
4) Did Mjolnir cure the human form? Thor in his Donald Blake form still had the limp between transformations. Neither Mjolnir nor Thunderstrike cured Masterson's eyesight in his human form. So you think the hammer should cure cancer when it can't even cure near-sightedness? Besides, cancer isn't an actual injury, it's your own cells behaving wrong. If Mjolnir cured the body of the human form, it'd just undo chemo killing the cancer cells.
@kalorama: It was explained why. The shock of transforming back to human form is making her already weak state worse. It doesn't mean damage she took as Thor transfers over. A healthy person would be able to take the shock and wouldn't really be affected.
And yet she's quite willing to pick up a magic hammer to go fight crime for the thrill of it. The hypocrisy is obvious, hence why a lot of Thor fans dislike Jane-Thor.
It's not hypocrisy. At the moment, she's the only one who can wield the hammer. She's doing it in spite of the shock of the transformation back to mortal form making her condition worse each time. Getting a rush out of the power doesn't mean she's doing it for "the thrill of it." Overall she's in a bad situation, but at least she has one aspect she can enjoy, which is the power. Not wanting the power initially doesn't mean it doesn't feel good to have it.
There's also the fact that Jane could have brought a cure to cancer to Earth and saved more lives than just her own, yet she chose not to. I don't know if that's been addressed or not.
They didn't offer her the formula or the ability to cure cancer. Thor offered Asgardian magic to cure her cancer. Just her. If you're going to ask anything, ask why Thor Odinson hasn't sent Asgardian healers to cure all the Earth's cancer?
She refused Asgardian magical treatment, not only because of her bad history with magic, but because she's a doctor, and has chosen to heal others with medicine. If she takes the Asgardian magic cure, she is saying she doesn't trust what she's always felt was good enough for her own patients. Also, because he was only offering it for her, she'd be giving the finger to everybody else with cancer. Sorry, you all shoulda had an ex boyfriend who was a god.
They might be interesting characters but to me it's a bit like a Elvis impersonator who could be a great singer on his own but submerges that to be like Elvis. He'll entertain, he'll make money but he'll always be missing a bit of something that Elvis had: the courage to strike out totally on his own and create his own identity for the world to judge. Creating that identity used to be a part of the process of character growth and I think not having it for Karmala (who in my opinion good character or not is market tested, focus grouped and pre-packaged in every single aspect of her persona and design) will make her loose out in the long run. And again it points to either a lack of originality on the part of the marvel writers or originality held in check by editors who aren't as interested in good stories as they are in stories that sell.
It's not the same as an Elvis impersonator. They are actively trying to impersonate the famous singer. Kamala is not trying to impersonate Carol Danvers. She's using the alias and emblem, but she has very different powers and tactics. It's closer to a new player on a sports team making a point to wear (and being vocal about it) the same number of a past player they admire. And the character growth comes from trying to live up to the name. Earning it through her actions.
(Do you have evidence of Kamala being focus grouped and pre-packaged?)
@the_stegman: Gah, can't read this until next week, probably shouldn't be reading the review and comics, oh well, but what did you dislike about her in this one? Is she so dramatically from how Wilson writes her?
It's less about how she's written and more that she's on the team at all. I know that there have been newbies on the Avengers before, but most have been heroes for some time or had training prior, she's been a hero for what? six months? And she's on the premiere team? I know she's popular, but geez. If I get powers and go beat up people in my neighborhood this Christmas, can I join??
There's also been the 8 more months since secret wars ended. She's had training from Medusa in New Attilan in her own story. We don't know if she's had training during this time, too. And there's not even a team yet. We don't know how long it'll be until they officially form and what she'll do before that as well. I know it's been said before, but she had more experience with being a hero than Stark when the Avengers were formed.
@the_stegman: Gah, can't read this until next week, probably shouldn't be reading the review and comics, oh well, but what did you dislike about her in this one? Is she so dramatically from how Wilson writes her?
Wow, the fight was brutal, but it was Zoom parading him around that got me. First the newspaper, then the police station, then Star labs. If it was daytime, he'd have probably gone to an elementary school and held up Barry's broken body to a bunch of kindergartners. "Children! This is what happens when you believe in heroes! Only believe in Zoom! Also... There is no Santa Claus!" Then he zooms off.
@gbandit: Nothing, she's hanging out with the Thors, stirring things up in the secret wars main book. (It's unclear if this takes place before or during (or even at what point during) the Secret Wars main story) She's not an original resident of Battle World, and none of the Jane Fosters who were original residents became Thors, they and some of the Donald Blakes (we don't know if any of the Donald Blakes were recruited as Thors either) were killed apparently by Rune Thor.
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