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Frozen's OFFICIAL (for now) Greatest Graphic Novels

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So these are entire story lines, not just a single issue I take it?

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@lukehero: Entire story lines, not single issues.

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Pretty nice list.

Is it strictly a top 10, or is it a list you'll work on over time?

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Pretty good list, but no Watchmen? , No Spiderman ?, No Civil War ?, too much DC, too much Batman even for me....and No WW Hulk?

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Pretty nice list.

Is it strictly a top 10, or is it a list you'll work on over time?

I can probably work on the list over time.

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Pretty nice list.

Is it strictly a top 10, or is it a list you'll work on over time?

Good question as well.

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@lukehero said:

Pretty good list, but no Watchmen? , No Spiderman ?, No Civil War ?, too much DC, too much Batman even for me....and No WW Hulk?

Sh*t, Watchmen...I completely forgot about that.

Also, no Civil War, that story-line was pretty mediocre.

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I disagree with KC being so high. It deserves a spot on the list for sure but I see at least 2 stories I would place above it. Also, I believe this list is missing such gems as The Killing Joke, All Star Superman, Wolverine Origin, Weapon X, The Authority etc. I could go on. But I assume this is still being built as per "(for now)"

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@pperspectiveandreality: While I have often cited Killing Joke in my top Batman stories, I find it, upon re-review inferior to The Dark Knight Returns which was interesting for the social commentry it gave for the time, Year One which IMO is the definitive comic-book origin for Batman and Son of the Demon which is perhaps the rarest yet best League of Shadows story.

Kingdom Come is better than All Star IMO, it was simply more compelling and the art-work made sure of that.

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@frozen: Really Watchmen should be 1# since Kingdom Come borrows it's themes.

@pperspectiveandreality: I agree, in my top 10 I would have more diversity.

No love for Batman Hush?

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@lukehero: Watchmen is #3, I preferred Kingdom Come due to the characters involved. Also no Hush either, Loeb's story-lines are too silly and convoluted.

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If I were you, I'd check out Superman Red Son, Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill, Beta Ray Bill Godhunter, Miracleman, and The Ultimates. These are some stories I really enjoyed.

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@frozen said:

@pperspectiveandreality: While I have often cited Killing Joke in my top Batman stories, I find it, upon re-review inferior to The Dark Knight Returns which was interesting for the social commentry it gave for the time, Year One which IMO is the definitive comic-book origin for Batman and Son of the Demon which is perhaps the rarest yet best League of Shadows story.

Kingdom Come is better than All Star IMO, it was simply more compelling and the art-work made sure of that.

Admittedly, the issue I had with KC was that there weren't enough feats so I see the reasoning behind it being so high. I agree with you about Year One. to me, YO is just one of those things that will never be replaced or bettered. Finally, I still havent finished TDKR so that claim has me eager to reach the end.

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@frozen: Really Watchmen should be 1# since Kingdom Come borrows it's themes.

@pperspectiveandreality: I agree, in my top 10 I would have more diversity.

No love for Batman Hush?

Batman Hush was good mindless fun but the plot was lacking imo. It would make a GREAT Batman movie with the right director and the omission of a few characters.

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If I were you, I'd check out Superman Red Son, Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill, Beta Ray Bill Godhunter, Miracleman, and The Ultimates. These are some stories I really enjoyed.

  • Red Son I have read, I should edit that higher
  • Admittedly I've not read much Beta Ray Bills, though I have read The Ultimates which was great (bar Hulk)
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Pretty hard to top that list.

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@pperspectiveandreality:

Maybe they we get to Hush one day in a live action or animated piece.

@frozen: I like a little LOEB FORCE, every once and a while :p

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Great list. Disagree with some things of course but everyone is differentz and I agree each novel deserves a spot on the list

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@frozen: Oh, and any love for 30 Days of Night, maybe not top 10, but top 25? Top 50 maybe?

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@erik said:

Pretty hard to top that list.

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@lukehero: Is that IDW? Because I'm planning to create a separate list for IDW/Dark Horse, etc.

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@frozen: The Beta Ray minis were surprisingly really, really good. They're the books that shaped his character, and are some of my favorite books. You really don't need too much knowledge on the character, to understand them.

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@frozen: I'd say Godhunter was the best of the two.

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i hardly hear speak of Red Son Superman.As for as Superman go,where you place hIm??LIke Post,Pre,KC....Good lookIng If you can answer Frozen.

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Good list.

Though I think Sandman, Preacher & The Killing Joke all deserve a mention.