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#1  Edited By fornarni182

Now that comics vs anime is allowed this site has offically dropped to the same level as KMC AND Moviecodec longue

THIS SITE WILL BURN AND I WILL LAUGH

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@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Flash isn't as powerful as his pre flashpoint self, so I don't know what people are getting at here. Yeah he could take out street levelers easily but he isn't taking out Thor or Hulk( hasn't shown the ability to IMP or speed steal). Not to mention the rest of the JL seems to be slightly depowered compared to their pre-flashpoint selves. Lmfao, yeah an Supes isn't anywhere near thousands of times the speed of light. Where the hell are these people getting these stats from? Avengers definitely have a shot due to numbers.

You dont actually read comics do you.....

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@Super_SoldierXII said:

Flash gets stopped regularly in his own titles by far less than the above roster.

Maybe you should try to read a Flash comic? Because Mirror Master, Captain Cold, Weather Wizard, Zoom and Professor Zoom would solo a vast majority of the Avengers and Xmen.

By this logic I can easily say the Avengers regularly get stomped in their own titles by far less than Flash and his rogue gallery,. Ultron,Graviton, Nefaria, Adaptoid, Super Skrull, Loki,Wrecking Crew, even the Hulk. Hell in AvX Scarlett Witch, arguably their most powerful member, was having trouble with freaking Modok of all people. Not to mention Flash isn't blood lusted when he fights his rogue gallery so it's a flawed comparison

If Flash is in character they can win, if he's blood lusted the Avengers and Xmen die, they get one shotted, BFR'd, speed stolen etc etc and there is nothing they can do about it

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@nickzambuto: @uberhikari: I'm not sure who said SUperman has no striking feats because he was shattering planets while he was inside the Galactic Golem. He was also shattering asteroids and other Celestial bodies like moons in Lex 2000.

If you didn't say this then please disregard this message, if you did, READ A COMIC

I've read almost every issue of the DBZ Manga and DBZ characters have no impressive physical feats. Strength wise Goku struggled with 40 tons when he was training in other world before going SSJ, But even at base form at this point he was stronger than Freeza was. And before you try to argue about the gravity of that world, only King Kai's planet was shown to have higher than normal gravity, not the Grand Kai's planet were Goku was training

Freeza surviving a planet blowing up is also under scrutiny considering he was killed by Trunks' sword a few issues later when he came to Earth. Trunks attacked the Androids and stated he put everything into that blast and yet the blast destroyed only a mountain. Lets also not forget that Gohan Piccolo Trunks and Goten were killed when Buu blew up the Earth, DBZ fans make excuses like suffocating in space, but Vegeta specifically asked if Buu was suicidal and Goku said that he would survive because he could regenerate

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Vegeta and Trunks are both clearly above Freeza's level and they were Ko'd by 18 when she threw Vegeta into Trunks. Now to be fair Vegeta was also beaten badly but Trunks was relatively fresh. He did get hit in the back by 17 but if a single punch put him into such bad shape then that proves my point that DBZ characters do not have impressive durability.

Also more durability cluster f*cks. Vegeta was training in 300x normal gravity [may have been different in the manga but I don't remember] if he weighed 150lbs that would his body 22 tons, and he ended up getting injured from it. That would only make him slightly stronger than Spiderman and weaker than Luke Cage.

Physical strength wise, Tien and Krillen were unable to knock down the door the Dr Gero's lab, they aren't as strong as Saiyans or Nameks but at this point they were at least stronger than the Ginyu Force, the same Ginyu Force that dominated Vegeta on Namek. Piccolo was there too but he opted to blast the door down because physical force wouldn't work

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Some amazing striking power right? I have seen them knock other characters into mountains so they have some decent striking power but they don't hit anywhere near as hard to shatter planetoids and Celestial bodies.

At about a minute in Cell did destroy a large asteroid but had to use a ki blast.

In terms of striking power characters like Superman and Wonder Woman severely outclass the DBZ crew.

Speed is where the big cluster f*CK happens. I've heard many many therories of DBZ characters speed but I've never seen any solid evidence of DBZ characters being FTL in travel or combat speed. There was an instance of Burtur stating he was FTL, But the problem is there are two scans floating around, one where he states he is, and another where the dialogue takes place. Hard to tell which one is photoshopped. It's also possible that it's hyperbole which is the more likely case. If DBZ characters were FTL they wouldn't have struggled with to knock down a steel door, even slow speedsters like Quicksilver and Northstar would of been able to plow through it with punches ala Mass Force Acceleration.

The only and I mean ONLY thing DBZ characters have going for them is energy blast and that's where the biggest inconsistencies occur. Trunks states he used his best blast against the androids and only destroyed a mountain, even if it was only focused on them it should of destroyed more than Gero's lab seeing how Piccolo and Rohsi were moon busters at the start of the series.

Lets assume that Piccolo can blow up the Earth. Wonder Woman has already blocked a blast from the entire Greek Pantheon with her Aegis, so Piccolo's strongest blast shouldn't be a problem. The only other thing Piccolo has is regeneration but considering Wonder Woman can pop his head like a tomato with a single punch he won't be able to come back from that

Just my two cents, but I'm more than educated enough to know what these characters are capable of and the most likely outcome in a fight.

@Vance Astro:Please reban the Anime vs Comics thread. Nothing good will come from this.

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#5  Edited By fornarni182

Love Batman but love Bradley too. Bruce could beat Pride from the 2003 series but Brotherhood Bradley aka Wrath is above Spiderman level.

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#6  Edited By fornarni182

Current Darkseid solo's, he's stronger than Superman who's a world bencher