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No. It’s only been a source of social degradation

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#2  Edited By FireStarLord73194

@dshipp17: my being Witness has nothing to do with anything. Stop trying to use that against me, the fact I am a Witness is the only reason I even have any sort of relationship with my father in the first place, if I wasn’t I would have given up on him a long time ago. Get the rafter out of your own eye before you come in here judging me about how to handle a drug addict and abusive parent, something no one is prepared to deal with. What’s going on with him is of his own choosing, and has hurt me and pushed me away long before I even became a witness. Educate yourself a bit more before you knock down a person who is begging for help. Very unchristian like.

And don’t tell me this is “God’s way” of getting me to listen to the mainstream church. What a disgusting thing to say. God didn’t force my dad to be a drug addict and beat my mother in front of me and traumatize me. And the mainstream Christian church did nothing for my father but give him money to support his addiction and look the other way when he was doing the awful things he was doing. And never checked up on him or the family when he left. I’m looking for practical suggestions, this wasn’t an invitation for you to come in here and plea for me to stop being a JW (which will never happen)

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on top of that his mom, my grandmother only has a couple more days to live and I’m terrified that’s gonna push him further over the edge to hurting himself or others

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@referee said:

First off my heart and prayers go out for you,

But the only advice i could give, other than pray, is just let your father live his life.

You can still try to help him quit, but it sounds like he is set in his ways.

It will be sad, but that's about it!

That’s what I’ve been doing. But the problem is his health has become so poor because of his life style, he’s dying. He’s also has been threatening suicide. I feel like if I do nothing, I will lose my father. I know I can’t make a person do something they don’t wanna do, but no matter what I feel the pain and guilt that I’m not doing enough.

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My dad is extremely toxic. He was an abuser when I was a kid and did drugs and was constantly getting arrested. Now I’m an adult and his health is failing him. Problem is his behavior for the past few years has indicated he’s using hard drugs. He blames it all on an unrelated illness he has but the behavior is too addict like to not be. Even his recent medical records list drug abuse but he refuses to admit it to me. He is now become very manic and aggressive and blaming everyone for his problems. Any practical suggestions on what an adult can do to help a parent shake free of drugs and mental illness?

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No, but I have a family member who won’t stop talking about it. This person has said this for years and it’s usually used as a manipulation tactic

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#7  Edited By FireStarLord73194

@spareheadone: my spirit isn’t me. My spirit is a part of me, and depending on context, my spirit can mean multiple different things, such as the pneuma or the very breath in my lungs, my life force or just my temperment and personality. It is not all of me anymore than potassium or some other nutrient is all of me. You need spirit to live, but that’s not all of the equation.

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@firestarlord73194:

Only The Spirit knows the thoughts of God. Therefore it is The Sprit who directs the actions of God

1 Corinthians 2:11- “For who among men knows the things of a man except the man’s spirit within him? So, too, no one has come to know the things of God except the spirit of God”

this verse is specifically talking about men coming to know the knowledge of God, and thus no one can know God unless they receive his spirit. You cannot know a thing especially about Him without God’s spirit acting upon you. Hence why when the disciples received his spirit (such as in Acts 2) they had knowledge of other languages, along with the ability and boldness to preach. If you look just one scripture before at 1 Cor 2:10 it explains what is meant here, where it says “For it is to us God has revealed them THROUGH his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.” Notice how God USES this spirit to accomplish something, God himself isn’t the spirit

The fact that the spirit “knows” what the Father knows does not make its will higher than the Father. It knows in the sense it carries out the Father’s will, according to the Father’s knowledge, not the other way around. It knows his will in the same way your cell phone “knows you” in the sense it has presets saved according to your preferences. The spirit is a tool God uses. Even if this verse literally meant that the spirit knows literally what the Father knows, that does not make it‘s will higher than the Father’s. You would need to provide more evidence besides just 1 Cor 2:11 if you mean to convince someone that the Spirit has a will that the Father is subject to

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@spareheadone: if you mean 1 Corinthians 2:11 I fail to see where it mentions that the Father is subordinate or does the will of the Spirit

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@spareheadone said:

@king_saturn:

1 Corinthians 2:11

For who among people knows the thoughts of a person except the spirit of the person that is in him? So also the thoughts of God no one knows, except the Spirit of God.

The Spirit of God knows Jehovah's thought because it's part of The Father itself or himself. I still think Jehovah uses The Spirit of God as his Active Power.

Agreed, the Holy Spirit is Gods active force