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Top Ten Reasons Angel Is the Best (non-anime) Show Ever

Ok, so I just read some imbecile's list of why Angel was a bad show (I sincerely hope the author was sterile, we do not need his stupid seed running about). I also know that a bunch of Buffy fans will come on here and give me **** about saying Angel is better than Buffy. (I love Buffy too, it's just not as good.)  Anyway, rather than write a thesis on why Angel is the best show ever, which I'm seriously considering, I'm just going to go with a short 10 reasons, and here they are;  
 
CAUTION: SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

10. Wolfram and Hart

One of the staples of Buffy the Vampire Slayer was the season-long "big bads". Rather than go with this approach Whedon and Greenwalt decided to go with a far more subtle form of evil; a ruthless corporation. We don't even see the Senior Partners throughout the course of the entire series, but we know they're there, lurking and manipulating. On top of that, Wolfram and Hart weren't always defeated by season's end, they were a continuing force throughout the series. Not to mention that the location of the Head Office was brilliant. At the same time we were introduced to Wolfram and Hart, an incredibly intelligent and deceitful network of corruption and deviance; Buffy was fighting a superpowered Demon Cyborg. Yeah....
 
 

9. Jasmine

 Was Jasmine a particularly good character? No. Was she particularly likeable? No. Was she the most complex and misguided villain in all of the Whedonverse? Hell yes. Before Jasmine, every Big Bad was pure evil. Some were more evil than others (the Mayor really wasn't that bad, he just wanted to become a god....Didn't happen), but before Jasmine they were all easily categorised as evil. Jasmine was not so simple. She gave the World total peace. She demanded complete obedience in return, but that does not change the outcome. Jasmine was the embodiment of Machiavellian manipulation. She tore through Angel Investigations and Wolfram and Hart like they were nothing, only to become a completely benevolent being. The ends justified her means. Except, she ate people to sustain herself. And she was incredibly flighty. Had she become bored, ol' Jaz would have definitely left us behind for another world. So, Angel took her down a peg, and society committed suicide. Isn't it nice being a hero? This is the kind of moral dilemma that made Angel such a brilliant show.

8. Cordelia Chase

Oh, Cordelia, how I loved thee. Rather than serving as comic relief for another three seasons, Whedon decided to give Cordy some more depth, and more than that, a purpose in life. She was the medium between the Powers that Be and the forces of good on Earth. Cordelia retained her biting wit and trademark superficiality, but she gained so much more. She was now a heroine. Sure, she wouldn't beat down vamps with her fists or volley lightning from her palms, but Cordelia went through agony every day of her life, and although she could have relinquished the pain; she knew she was the person for the job, so she stuck at it. Sure, her season 4 arc was a little disappointing, but that technically wasn't Cordy, it was just Charisma Carpenter, but despite all that, her final appearance in the show is one of the best farewells in television history (though it's beaten by another member of Angel Investigations). 
 

7.  Smile Time :D

 Angel as a puppet. Puppet vampire Angel. This is the single most epic thing ever seen on television. The funniest episode in Buffydom, and one of the most creative, this was Angel's "Once More, With Feeling". Though it probably wasn't as good, this episode was just fun. Whether it was the "Self Esteem Song" or the sheer creepiness of seeing a human used as a puppet, there wasn't a single moment of this episode that didn't kick ass. But if all of that wasn't enough, we have a beautiful soliloquy by Wes about his feelings for Fred, and the nature of "Perfect Happiness". Not to mention the best couple in Buffydom FINALLY get together this episode. Honestly, there isn't a single moment in the 40 minutes that isn't marvelous. 
 

6. "Not Fade Away"

This was a perfect finale, to an almost perfect show. Everyone's story was resolved. Wesley was reunited with Fred, Illyria found a reason to continue her life on Earth (beating W&H into oblivion), Spike read his poetry, Gunn....well he was there, and Angel stood out as THE Champion of the Buffyverse. With the series motif as the final words ever broadcast, and an epic final scene, this show went out with a bang and there wasn't the slightest hint of Deus Ex Machina anywhere to be seen (*cough* Chosen *cough*). Also Angel's fight against Marcus; badass. 
 

5. Existentialism

There are exactly two things in the world that make everything better; one is Batman, and the other is Existentialism. Why is Neon Genesis Evangelion the greatest achievement of humankind? About 260 billion reasons, but one of them is Existentialism; a concept Angel has in spades. Whilst it was only hinted at in Buffy (Angel is constantly seen reading Sartre) and barely mentioned in the first season, by season 2 it becomes obvious Angel is a series about WHY we do things, rather than what we do. Buffy was the Slayer. She knew what her purpose was. Angel, however, decided to atone for his sins. But then after awhile, he realised there was no point. He couldn't atone. So he decided, in one of the best arcs in television history, that nothing we do matters, so all that matters is what we do. 
 

4. Winifred "Fred" Burkle

From her first appearance, it was obvious that Fred was something special. Played to perfection by the beautiful Amy Acker, Fred is the most likeable character Joss Whedon has ever created. There is not a single thing about Fred that isn't wonderful. From her Texan accent to her stuffed toy named Figgenbaum, Fred is completely adorable. She also makes decapitating, axe-throwing briefcases. Do not be mistaken, beneath the insanely high IQ, child like giddiness and angelic visage, Fred is a total badass. She is supremely resourceful, quick-thinking and invaluable in battle. She is also the most empathetic character in the show. Everyone loves Fred, because Fred cares about everybody (unless they sink Angel to the bottom of the Ocean or trap her in a Hell dimension). Even Spike liked Fred.
 
 

3. Wesley Wyndam-Pryce

No other character in the Whedonverse has gone through as much character development as Wes. He started out as a pompous twit designed to make Giles seem cooler (didn't work, Giles singing made Giles cool). As soon as he arrived, Wesley was treated with derision and apathy from his student and his colleague. After being fired from the Watcher's Council for...well, sucking, Wesley became a "Rogue Demon Hunter" and was surprisingly competent. He was no Faith, but he didn't suck too much either. From there, he joined Angel Investigations as primary researcher. After taking over during Angel's "Kill Everyone" phase, something happened to Wesley, and he became an entirely different person. That something was meeting Fred Burkle. As soon as he met Fred, Wesley developed a new reason to do good, before then, he was simply doing as he was told, or trying to make up for past failures, but when he met Fred, Wesley decided to do good so as to make the world a better place for Fred, and people like her, to live in. After that, there was nothing Wesley would not do for Fred, and though he went through and was consumed by Hell (metaphorically), he came back. Without Wes, Angel Investigations would not have continued and the Buffyverse would have perished long ago.

2. Angel/us

Why is the series' phenomenal protagonist second? Surely he'd be number one? Wouldn't he? No, he's second. This is my damn list. Nevertheless, Angel is the perfect hero. He fights for absolutely no personal gain; a true altruist. He is constantly tempted by things that would cause himself or others ill. He stands up to impossible odds and never gives in, even when he fails. He is dark, enigmatic and, when he needs to be; very, very dangerous. Nevertheless, his terrible singing, love for Barry Manilow, constant assertions that he's "not cheap, just old" and his social awkwardness make him hilarious and human (despite being a vampire). On the other hand, Angelus is the perfect villain. Angelus is as evil as anyone else in either show. He is Hannibal Lector with eternal life and a natural requirement to eat people. But both Angel and Angelus have one thing in common; both are awesome.
 

1. "A Hole in the World"

This is the greatest 40 minutes of television in history. There was no melodrama here, simply a dignified and noble spirit suffering an undignified and ignoble death. Winifred Burkle met her end in one of the most tragic moments ever, and as she lay dying in the arms of her beloved Wesley, she utters the most beautiful line in the series "Wesley, why can't I stay?". No one walks away from this death without losing something; Spike loses the one person who believed in him, Lorne loses his best friend, Gunn loses his co-worker's trust and the woman he loved (since he helped, unknowingly, kill her), Angel loses the one person whose faith in him never wavered, and Wesley loses his reason for being. Fred was a small character in the way that she had no superpowers, she couldn't open portals or teleport, she couldn't end the world with a spell, she was just an amazing person; and she died because of it.
 
There are thousands of great moments in Angel, but none stand out so much as "A Hole in the World". This is a quiet episode, there is no great battle, no huge sacrifice. Fred just dies. And because we see her final agonising moments, the death is brutal and heartbreaking. It remains Joss Whedon's finest achievement and the number one reason Angel is the best (non-anime) television show of all time. 
 
 
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Completely agree just 2 parts, jasmine while wanting world peace was eating people would have been 1000's if angel had not interfered, and Connor took her down not angel: )
And, did angel really love Cordy, I know he did but not the way he did buffy, when he was losing his soul season 4, he still called out buffys name if i recall.
 
And a whole in the world was truly a masterpiece with the scene between fred and wesley here. And after they'd started a relationship that had been building for that long.

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@nightwing91 said:
" Completely agree just 2 parts, jasmine while wanting world peace was eating people would have been 1000's if angel had not interfered, and Connor took her down not angel: ) And, did angel really love Cordy, I know he did but not the way he did buffy, when he was losing his soul season 4, he still called out buffys name if i recall.  And a whole in the world was truly a masterpiece with the scene between fred and wesley here. And after they'd started a relationship that had been building for that long. "
True. But she still wanted peace, for the most part. Connor did take her down, but that was only after Angel relinquished her control by revealing her name. So whilst Connor killed her, Angel was the reason for her downfall =]
 
And yeh, he didn't love Cordy nearly as much as he did Buffy. He did love her though, just not in the same way. Kind of like how Bruce loves Zatanna, but it's nowhere near how much he loves Selina.
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niceee . cannot wait until we watch Angel :)
ngaww Fred + Wes </3 :(

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@rogue_mar1e: Me neither! Why can't you be here now, we could be watching it as we spea-... type. :(
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Where is the he's hot reason ? :P

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@FadeToBlackBolt: Well I mean Angel is the kind of guy that see's the means don't justify the end's he took her down she was eating people and stripping free will. And angel did most of it but connor is the one who ended up shoving his fist through her head.
 
Yes, I agree 100% on that last staement on him not loving cordy as much, his perfect lfie would always be with buffy.
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @rogue_mar1e: Me neither! Why can't you be here now, we could be watching it as we spea-... type. :( "
we will :)
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@FadeToBlackBolt: I know but most don't...which is sad... :D
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High Twenty (Take your shoes off XD)
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@Miss Menace: lol, I'm not sure I'd be able to manage that, I have very long legs.
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Well I'm a muchkin 
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@Miss Menace: Half your luck, means you don't have to duck under doors =]
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@FadeToBlackBolt: Full on matrix lean ? :P
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@Miss Menace: Haha, no quite, it's usually along the lines of walk, hit head, swear, then move under doorframe :P
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@FadeToBlackBolt:Wearing Sunglasses ? :P
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Do you wear them at night ? xD
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Charisma Carpenter is my number 1 reason, she is so hot!

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@Silkcuts: True that, true that. Amy Acker too :D
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I totally need to start buying up the seasons of this show, don't I?

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@The Dark Huntress: In a word; YES!!!!!!
 
So awesome :D
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@FadeToBlackBolt: Do you know how much money you're suggestion are costing me?
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@FadeToBlackBolt:  aww man... I want to get the DVDs now....
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@The Dark Huntress said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt: Do you know how much money you're suggestion are costing me? "
lol, it'd probably be cheaper to just move to Melbourne, Australia and for me to just lend it all to you :P
 
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" @FadeToBlackBolt:  aww man... I want to get the DVDs now.... "

They're so awesome :D And I got them cheap as. $14 brand new, each. =D
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@FadeToBlackBolt: You're a tricky one. xP
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  aww man... I want to get the DVDs now.... "
They're so awesome :D And I got them cheap as. $14 brand new, each. =D "
Do you mind if I ask where?  :D
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Better have non-anime in there.
 
: p
 
From what I've read here, it seems interesting.

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@The Dark Huntress said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt: You're a tricky one. xP "
:P@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  aww man... I want to get the DVDs now.... "
They're so awesome :D And I got them cheap as. $14 brand new, each. =D "
Do you mind if I ask where?  :D "
Kmart in Victoria, Australia lol@Sexy Merc said:
" Better have non-anime in there.  : p  From what I've read here, it seems interesting. "
It really is awesome, but it's still not as good as NGE.
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@FadeToBlackBolt: Oh I see. So you like Evangelion more than TV shows? I sure as hell do.
 
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@FadeToBlackBolt:  good buy :D
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@Sexy Merc: Oh, yeah. Evangelion is my number One anything. Probably tied with Batman. Maybe even edging out the Dark Knight (character, not movie, easily kills the movie).
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@FadeToBlackBolt: That's great to see. It's truly one of the greatest animes, and definitely tied with many others for my favorite. I have to make a top 1,000 by the end of 2011 for an anime forum bet.
 
TT_TT
 
I can't separate some..
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@Sexy Merc: Haha, that'll be tough. Just make sure Eva is in the top 10 and we're cool :P
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@FadeToBlackBolt: Haha, alright.
 
* Whispers under breath *
 
I can't make any promises.
 
Alright, FTBB, see you later.
 
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Smile Time :D Best episode ever, well that and the one in Italy with the immortal XD

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@Final Arrow: Yeah, "the Girl In Question" is hilarious. =]
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Got the entire set of the show ^_^

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You have a man-crush ! lol

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@Primmaster64: Yep, coz Angel rules.
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"Angel" was a more mature television series. Buffy dealt with a younger cast, so they had to carefully handle the subject matter. I loved both of the shows, but Angel was darker, grittier, and more provocative.
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@Illyana Rasputin: Yep, I agree 100%
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HELL YEAH ANGEL 4 THE MOTHER F#$KING WIN

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I love this list.

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