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The problem here is that in the Nolanverse, the martial arts used by the characters are generally very efficient and realistic, as opposed to the Arrowverse, where the martial arts are pretty much choreographed dance sets by how extreme and inefficient they look. Oh yeah, not to mention the fact that Batman's in that bulky suit and can't pull off any of those crazy moves anyway.

In direct comparison, I think Bronze Tiger takes this one for those reasons.

@thecheesestabber: yes.

@raggedscarecrow: Yeah, I think it was in the #0 issue. More importantly, I remember in a more recent comic her saying something to Bette that although she wore the symbol, that she didn't want to be associated with Batman. Hopefully they at least give us a compelling reason why the hell she suddenly changed her mind.

So, I'm drawing the conclusion that, since Williams and Blackman thought their last issue would be 26, that 26 was originally supposed to end this arc and now it's not.

Guys, if there was anything I was ever anticipating in the comic book world, more than any issue of any series or any single event, it was this showdown between Batman and Batwoman. I am both sad and angry.

@danslott: Whether or not you're the real deal, you make a very good point. I'm rather neutral on your Superior Spider-Man direction, but I'll say this: people complaining has had absolutely little to zero effect on your book selling, or even just people reading it. It's divisive as all hell, we get it; sometimes that sells books in and of itself. But mostly, you have to consider casual readers who honestly don't know any better, comic book readers who just love the idea, and the people that read it regardless of their opinion of it. It's the same with the Call of Duty series. I'm fairly certain everyone and their mothers knows what COD is about and that it makes very minimal changes, and they release one every friggin' year. And yet, they are still the best-selling video game franchise every single year, in spite of the overwhelming negative opinion people have of Activision's development practices. Explain that one to me, please.

Superior Spider-Man is nowhere near that level of quality, though, and I'm sure everyone can admit to that. In spite of your feelings on the core matter, SSM is a brilliantly told book that carries out its objective of deconstructing the character is very unique ways. It's a bit hammy at times, but it's a good book overall. All the hate that it gets is pretty irrelevant in the scope of things, because it's going to keep selling and keep up its quality until Dan Slott or whoever at Marvel that matters decides that it was a good run, but it's time to move on. So, seriously you guys, you need to move on.

It's simple. We kill the Bieber.

Yeah, Dexter has been on a decline pretty much since season 1 because he was virtually "perfect" before then, it's when you factor in emotions and other oddities is when his perfection begins to crumble. Of course, it wouldn't make for a good show if Dexter really was perfect. lol

Dexter could pull it off. If Joker doesn't prep against him, there's not much he would be able to do. I'm sure he doesn't have a countermeasure for getting M99'd, just like he doesn't actively have a countermeasure for anything else.

These are my thoughts exactly. The suit this Batman is wearing is pretty different from the suit Bruce is currently wearing. However, IGN did a story on this development and another idea that seems somewhat plausible is the return of Thomas Wayne,Jr. We'll see how it pans out, though. This is by far the most interesting development in this Forever Evil arc, considering most of it seems pretty gimmicky.

I never had any delusions that this was about anti-gay sentiments. This was about quashing creativity, and if it wasn't bad enough that they succeeded, they're kicking us while we're down by bunching Batwoman in with the rest of the Batfamily. These creators have spent over two years cutting a niche for Batwoman in this universe, and I'll be damned if they haven't succeeded. Now, all that is going down the toilet. And to not even let them finish this arc, DC's got some balls.

It's not even like you can see that Batwoman is an icon and if she's not portrayed a certain way, she won't push books; Batwoman has been the opposite of fitting into the status quo, and she's been selling because of it. I can only hope that Andreyko can bring some kind of justice into this (a Zero Year arc doesn't sound half bad, honestly), but if not, I'll hope to see the book cancelled. DC doesn't deserve what they have. The more misdirected flak they get over this "anti-gay" thing the better.

As close as they might get, I don't think Snyder would ruin the character like that. Give the guy some credit. Even if they do reveal some kind of origin, I'm sure it'll be interesting to say the least.

Phantasm by a large margin.

I hardly even consider it an actual event.

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