Erkan12

Vader has telekinesis advantage, and Maul has speed advantage. It could go either way.

Also,

Star Wars Comics UK Magazine 04 (2014) recently compared these two ;

VS.

Rules

• TCW - Maul
• RotJ - Vader
• Legends & Canon both are available
• Location : Mandalore

Dooku is not superior to Mace in the force, especially not at any degree to ''considerably'' .

Mace manipulated an AT-TE (a tank), force crushed Grievous. Used powerful force wave,force crush and force blast on large droid armies, stomped / disarmed Quinlan Vos & Sora Bulq. Manipulated a small piece of a ship that Grievous didn't even noticed. Dooku is not going to beat Mace via telekinesis.

This is up to lightsaber battle, both are considered as equal duelist in the past. However, hypes of Mace is better than Dooku in RotS especially with Vaapad. (unmatched skills with lightsaber, compared with Yoda by Obi-Wan & Lucas)

In speed, they are equal as well, if Mace amp himself, he can even be faster than Count. Physical strength goes to Mace, he also knows djem-so maneuvers, and he has enough kinetic power to defeat Dooku.

Mace 10 / 10.

Poor Chewy.

Mace is too fast for Vader to handle. Too much difference in terms of speed. Mace is at least fast as Count Dooku and TCW Maul, and especially when he is amped, he is faster than that. Vader is no where near fast as even a default Mace.

Skill edge goes to Mace as well.

If this was Dooku, then I would say that Vader has physical strength advantage, but against Mace Windu ? He doesn't. Mace destroyed super-battle droids with his bare hands, matched with a Gundark's strength, these feats are rival to Vader's physical strength or even better.

Telekinesis seems to only advantage of Vader here. But, I don't think that there is too much difference in that, and not to mention Vader never defeated someone at Mace's level via TK attacks. And the force is the second determined factor in these battles not the first.

Mace 10 / 10.

Sidious only speedblitzed Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar. He never blitzed Kit Fisto. You can say that, presence of Mace did that if you want, (though Kit was very fast also) both in movie and novel, in the movie Kit deflected 3 attack from Sidious, in the RotS book he actually managed to fight with Sidious unlike Saesee and Kolar.

I am not sure about Ventress is slower than TPM Maul. She is fast and quick as Kit Fisto (or very close to him) and faster than AotC Kenobi / Luminara Unduli, maimed Anakin via agility (Anakin's eye scar). TPM Maul & Ventress should be equal on speed.

Well, saying ragdolled is a little too much it is true. Still, Obi-Wan was already disarmed because of Maul's force attack, not because of the pit.

TPM Maul's force powers are underrated again. He at least ragdolled an amped TPM Kenobi and force sensitive Drovian Silus (he is also proficient at Telekinesis).

It's a good fight. I am going with team 1 ; 6 of 10.

He didn't. It is just another Vader wank. Vader's weakness to force lightning is proved many times, and while Luke take the same lightning for 1 or 2 minutes and survived, Vader only take that 10 seconds and then he died. He is completely vulnerable to force lightning.

And he is also no where near fast as TCW Maul or Tyranus. (I wouldn't even put him TPM Maul's speed tier, and this battle proves it) This is completely ridiculous, Lucas himself said that Vader is crippled man and can't perform his speed properly, but wait Vader needs to be wanked. I have at least 5 eu scans says that Vader is slow, but somehow everyone needs to ignore and forget all these and just look at the Vader's best feats.

And I don't have any answer for ridiculousness of Maul's ''sheer force of will'' yeah, Maul stands alongside with the sith lords because he has a big heart......

@shootingnova

I already told you that, I don't want to debate with you. And this fanboy wanking of yours proves my point, just because I just proved that I was right about TCW Maul has grown powerful in every category, then you instantly presented that Barlow's statement as a out of context. Keep going with denial, but know that I was right about TCW Maul's power and you were completely wrong about it.

@matchesmalone21: Is this a new power set for Shazam ? I don't remember it before.