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Maul's Force vision at Malachor.

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And he passes the test.

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@thenewguysnm1 said:

@erkan12: Outlier

You should know this

You can cav me as limitless clearly isn't game.

''Outlier'' when multiple DB characters have demonstrated that they can also destroy a planet? Lmao. :))

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#3 Posted by Erkan12 (8254 posts) - - Show Bio

Itachi if he isn't sick, there is nothing Minato can do about Susanoo considering he won't have any trouble with Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi.

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Planet buster vs. Mountain buster.... A horrible mismatch. Goku stomps.

@thenewguysnm1 said:
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@thenewguysnm1 said:

Kakashi solos the arc

That ain't happening, Vegeta in character was perfectly willing to bust the planet against Goku, Kakashi has no way of surviving that.

Proof vegeta wasn't bluffing?

Proof he could bust the planet?

Speed feats.

Dude are you serious?

Roshi busted a Moon, and he is an insect in comparison with Saiyan Saga Goku and Vegeta...

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#5 Posted by Erkan12 (8254 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry and Blue Marvel has different power sets, they are not ''Marvel Superman'' at all.

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@kilius said:

@erkan12:

how can Yoda throw Palpatine but at the same time he is knocked off from the podium?

It means that Yoda threw Sidious's lightning back at him, but was blown back by the resulting explosion he initiated. Point remains that Sidious didn't overpower Yoda.

He overpowered him simply because Yoda couldn't successfully repel his attack, instead he has thrown away due to the shockwave and failed to grab anything unlike Sidious did.

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Not to mention, Palpatine then follows Yoda according to the script as he could beat him again Which only proves that Sidious can replicate the same while Yoda knew that he is $%&@ up if he faces with Sidious again and he escapes.

Obviously he wants visual confirmation he's dead. In the SN Sidious sounded the alarm almost immediately and was described as a very tired old man despite not taking that same 100 meter fall as Yoda:

"The base of the Arena was a hundred meters below, littered with twisted scraps and jags of metal from the pods destroyed in the battle, and as the little green freak fell, finally, above, the victorious shadow became once again only Palpatine: a very old, very tired man, gasping for air as he leaned on the pod’s rail.. Old he might have been. but there was nothing wrong with his eyesight; he scanned the wreckage below, and he did not see a body.

He flicked a finger, and in the Chancellor's Podium a dozen meters away, a switch tripped and sirens sounded throughout the enormous building;another surge of the Force sent his pod streaking in a downward spiral to the holding office at the base of the Podium tower. Clone troopers were already swarming into it.~ RotS SN

He already tried to run from Yoda before, he knows Yoda is capable of killing him, so he isn't going to take unnecessary risks if he doesn't have to.

And in the JN which is perfectly valid C-Canon material, Yoda knew he would never get another chance to fight Sidious and that he would call the Coruscant Guard, which is back up by the fact that Sidious did in the SN:

"Bruised and battered, but alive he crawled into a service chute. There would be no second chance to kill the Emperor; he would summon his clone troops immediately for protection." ~ RotS JN

Even if we take the script into consideration, Yoda chooses to throw Palpatine by taking the risk of getting knocked off the podium, or he would get shot by Palpatine's lightning, either way Yoda loses.

And if this had happened on flat ground they both only would have been thrown back and the battle would have continued. Either way the point still stands that Sidious didn't overpower Yoda and only won the battle circumstantially.

You mean Yoda can't even pass through the Clone troopers? Interesting.

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Even if we take the script into consideration, Yoda chooses to throw Palpatine by taking the risk of getting knocked off the podium, or he would get shot by Palpatine's lightning, either way Yoda loses.

And if this had happened on flat ground they both only would have been thrown back and the battle would have continued. Either way the point still stands that Sidious didn't overpower Yoda and only won the battle circumstantially.

Sidious was in a much better shape which is why he managed to grab a senate pod, Yoda however wasn't and completely thrown away.

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@jameswayne said:

@erkan12: because he just fell down a large distance? He was clearly hurt. Palestine got lucky and fell into a pod. The same pod he chased yoda with.

Palestine never gets lucky, Palpatine you mean?

He was able to grab a senate pod during the shockwave while Yoda couldn't, meaning that Sidious was stronger.

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@jameswayne said:

@erkan12: he was forced to flee because by that point the fall hurt him and troopers were coming into the room too. And the movie clearly shows yoda lushing back the lightning causing the explosion and worry on sidius face. In my opinion to say that sidiuuss win was not conditional ignores the clear context of the scene

Yoda was afraid of the Clone troopers? The same troopers that he trashed before entering the Jedi temple? Or the Imperial guards that he one-shotted before facing with Sidious? It looks like another excuse.

If the fight was circumstantial, and if Yoda had any chance to defeat Sidious, then he would try that another day. Plain and simple.

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@kilius said:

@erkan12:

Sidious was just unable to control that power when he get closer and closer to Yoda, and Yoda just held his ground, then what? Yoda lost.

No the screenplay clearly states that it was Yoda who pushed him back:

"YODA leaps after him, but PALPATINE quickly turns and aims the full force of his energy bolts at the tiny green Jedi, catching him in mid-air and throwing him back hard against the Podium. The force causes YODA to drop his lightsaber. YODA blocks the lightning and throws PALPATINE backwards off the podium. YODA is knocked off the Podium and falls several hundred feet to the base of the Podium. PALPATINE follows in his pod, searching for YODA." ~ RotS Script

Yoda blocks the lightning and throws Palpatine backwards. That's how Lucas interprets the scene ain't no way to spin it. Yes Yoda "lost" but he wasn't overpowered by Sidious's lightning. His lose was still circumstantial.

You've problems to understand my friend, how can Yoda throw Palpatine but at the same time he is knocked off from the podium? Not to mention, Palpatine then follows Yoda according to the script as he could beat him again... Which only proves that Sidious can replicate the same while Yoda knew that he is fucked up if he faces with Sidious again and he escapes.

Even if we take the script into consideration, Yoda chooses to throw Palpatine by taking the risk of getting knocked off the podium, or he would get shot by Palpatine's lightning, either way Yoda loses.

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@jameswayne said:

@erkan12: the rots fight was was a tie if anything today had the upper hand in the end based off facial expressions. He just got sent further in the explosion cause he’s lighter and didn’t have something to grip onto like sidius did. It was purposely portrayed as a circumstantial win.

On topic since Rotj sidiusis stronger than rots yoda I think sidius and luke take it.

Based on what? Facial expressions? That's ridiculous.

Sidious was just unable to control that power when he get closer and closer to Yoda, and Yoda just held his ground, then what? Yoda lost.

It's not like Yoda could face Sidious and not lose again, if he knew he could carry on the battle, then he wouldn't escape from the fight, and he would gather allies and he would return someday. He just saw the fact that he doesn't have a chance against Sidious.

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''Yoda confronted Sidious in the heart of the Senate chambers. This erupted into an intense duel between these masters of the Force, a fight that Yoda ultimately lost and was forced to flee.''

Source: Starwars.com/databank/yoda-biography-gallery

Yoda forced to flee, it isn't something he decided.