ericbarbwire

@the_man_with_questions: The thing is, a few words has caused problems many many times throughout history, removing the words clearly wouldn't take too much effort just a few lawmakers might take an hour tops to finish it.

I'm not sure if you read my post but in Michigan it's legally required to play the pledge every single morning. K-12 pretty much all rise for the pledge unless you have a reason not to in which case you are seated. Do you not see how that could lead to elementary kids to get targeted and bullied for choosing not do so? My friend whom was a Jehovahs witness actually has a religious reason not for so felt awkward pretty much every single day of his class for the majority of his life.

I have to say I think it's interesting that you think that God will support the United States less if a few congressmen decide to nix a phrase.

I thought God didn't like to intervene with freewill, so if racism, abortion, and other atrocities were to happen it wouldn't change whether God was there or not.

Also it should be noted that, people used The Bible as a reason to fuel slavery.

People used God as a reason to fuel the Crusades.

I'm not saying that's what The Bible or what God intended.

I am saying that, just because something represents God or is in the name of God, doesn't automatically make it better or won't necessarily give God a higher opinion of you.

@mchm:

"Some people believe that vaccines cause harm. And? People believe a lot of things."

People who don't vax actually do cause LOTS of harm lol. Basically, it weakens the general herd immunity, but back on topic.

You act like all of this was hundreds of years ago, in fact you actually say that. But there is actually a long history of the USA congress bringing "In God We Trust" back as the National Motto even when it was never an issue, basically, these guys keep bringing it up when obviously there are more important issues to worry about.

They just reaffirmed the motto in 2011, they did so in 2006 and I also believe in 2004.

I hope you realize what a gigantic waste this phrase is. It's not just something from the 1800's it's something that still consumes our tax dollars and time to this day.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-god-we-trust-reaffirmed-as-national-motto-again/

The pyramid and the eye is actually supposed to represent The eye of God, not a different religion, at least in the context of the dollar bill.

I see you clearly IGNORED my historical rebuttal, but it's okay, because I can very easily win this via American grammar rules. I noticed that in your last sentence you have "god" written in all lower-case letters. This is not how God is represented in any of the sources your provided. I'm not sure if you noticed, but each time "God" is brought up, he has a capital G. Pretty interesting don't you think? Here's an American grammar rule, for the Abrahamic God, you use a capital G, if you were saying Vishnu is a god, then that would be a lower-case g. If it's a non-biblical god you use a lower-case G. As I had aforementioned, and what you had not argued against, the only 3 strongly prevalent monotheistic religions all follow the Abrahamic God.

So yes, it clearly DOES favor the Abrahamic God.

I think your argument is done now.

http://grammarist.com/style/god-capitalization/

Perhaps I misworded my statement, In God We Trust was first applied to coins in 1864, but the phrase was put on and off at different periods of time, but it was not applied to ALL currency until 1956, so it was indeed not brought back or anything. It's funny you mention the first addition of "In God We Trust" onto coins, the entire reason why this happened was because a reverend, (Follower of the Abrahamic God). Petitioned to include it in 1861. Many lawmakers agreed it would look like "God" was supporting the side of the Union during the Civil War. So in THIS case, or the very first case it was brought onto currency it ABSOLUTELY represents the Abrahamic God. Also, the real first references of the motto actually come from THE BIBLE. Far before the National Anthem was written.

Check out these passages boy

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalms%2073:28-73:28&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs%2029:25-29:25&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalms%20118:8-118:8&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalms%2040:3-40:3&version=KJV

I'll be happy to explain why I do believe "God" is referencing the Abrahamic God. For one, it is referring to monotheistic views, because it says God as opposed to Gods, or supreme beings etc. It's singular.

"In God We Trust" was added to currency in 1956, at the time of that, the only three strongly prevalent monotheistic religions in the world were; Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. That's largely true today as well. All three of these monotheistic religions only believe in and worship the same Abrahamic God. So I did not say God was specific to a single religion, you put words in my mouth there, I did say the Abrahamic God which is worshipped by the religions I mentioned and branches of it.

Also, you are more than welcome to search up the statistics of the time that would show an enormous amount of lawmakers were Christian at the time, including 41 of the 43 presidents. I think it's pretty clear they were referring to the Abrahamic God.

You're wrong there, plenty are lol. Plenty of Christians think Christianity was under attack when people started saying "Happy Holidays" as opposed to "Merry Christmas"

Donald Trump himself has a few rants on it, as well as several other conservative leaders.

Alright cause pretty much everyone is saying no, I guess this would be pretty controversial.

I say YES, I don't think it's any surprise to people that when these things reference "God" it clearly means the Abrahamic God. While I do agree people are able to worship whoever or whatever they want, I think putting it on everything is a little much. I also don't think the government should be showing a preference into a religion or anything like that, after all that's a violation of church and state. Also, in my home-state Michigan, it's state law that the pledge be played every single day K-12 grade, so having a bunch of 18 year olds do the same pledge every single day can seem a little weird to other groups.

It also doesn't make sense for people to gain hope from God being on the pledge or money, I mean if you wanted hope wouldn't it be far more effective to just look up a Bible verse or actually go to a church?

Anyways, these are just my thoughts

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