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#1  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I might have to start getting this if Mike's going to be on it.

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#2  Edited By EpicMeltDown

@hectorsquall: I can see what you're saying but i think people's personal views on the ethics of taking a life would play very heavily into whether or not they thought a team of superheroes should be seen as willing to kill. I don't think that has to be done with rudeness as some on here have done but I can definitely see where religious views would come into the mix.

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#3  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I have been trying to read through everyone's comments because I always hate posting things that are redundant. So, sorry if I missed comments in this vain.

In real life, I wouldn't want any superheroes to kill unless they were official government operatives. If I heard that Phoenix Jones killed someone, I would want him arrested and put on trial for it. If however Phoenix Jones were employed by the government (local or federal) and was authorized to use lethal force like any other police officer and any incident involving lethal force was subject to review then fine. I wouldn't want just anyone being able to use lethal force because they had some powers and a mask. I would want them official sanctioned and subject to checks and balances. Are the Avengers a government organization with those checks and balances? I don't know, I don't read the Avengers but if they are then fine. Kill at your discretion.

Beyond that I think you also have to take into account if the Avengers are acting in a law enforcement or a military capacity. For law enforcement situations then they should use lethal force when a life is in danger and there is no other means to subdue the criminal. They shouldn't be acting as a military force unless specifically authorized to do so. A situation is a war if it has legally been declared so and at that point they should follow a commanding officer's rules of engagement.

I think the real problem you run into with killing when necessary in a comic universe is that death has as much of a revolving door as the prison system. Spider-man could kill Norman Osborne as an Avenger but he'd come back to life as sure as he'd break out of prison so what's the difference? In that scenario, I'd rather send him to prison and not feel morally compromised. However, if dead was dead I could see a need for it on the part of superheroes.

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@War Killer: I don't read Iron Man. The only Iron Man comic I own is the Extremis trade. I liked the idea of the under coated being stored in his bones. And it made a decent amount of sense in the context of the story. Volume wise, I was willing to except that this thin layer could be stored internally. I really like the Bleeding Edge armor concept but I wanted to ask a question (that I suppose is open to anyone): Where does the armor go when he's not wearing it? Yes, I get that the concept is that it's inside his body but from a literal volume perspective, am I being asked to believe that he has enough room inside him to store his entire suit? Is this a stripped down emergency model or his fully operational armor? It's fiction so they can do what they want but I'm curious if that's the whole idea. I know I could look this up but I'm a little lazy and I figure a fan can explain it better than the comic vine entry (no offense comic vine).

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#5  Edited By EpicMeltDown

So the title made me think this was going to be an interview with Scott Snyder. Sadly it was just two cover images. :(

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#6  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I don't think Hal was under the impression that the indigos couldn't channel will. I'm fairly certain Hal was tricking Black Hand into channeling will so he could charge his ring.

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#7  Edited By EpicMeltDown

Pretty covers or not, I won't be there for this. There's plenty of great art work on comics that aren't muddying the figurative waters of a classic for future generations.

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#9  Edited By EpicMeltDown

There is a Russian physicist named Igor Novikov who came up with a theory (Novikov self-consistency principle) which in part deals with the idea of altering time. The view in most fiction seems to always deal with a fluid present-centric view of time. (ie: Now is the most important time and anything can be changed). In Novikov's theory, time is set and 'now' isn't any more important then the past or the future since any time you pick is someone's present/past/future. So the idea as it pertains to the Fantastic Four would be that future Franklin's existence in the present doesn't change his future because this is always how the timeline existed. He knows to go back and help his past self because he remembers the event from when he was a child. The information that he receives as a child and later shares with his younger self has a consistent timeline. It's just that the timeline for that information is a circle rather then a straight line. (Novikov referred to items or information with circular timelines as Jinn's). It's consistent but it's just not how we normally view time. Where time is relative a static self-consistent timeline makes more sense to me.

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#10  Edited By EpicMeltDown

@Deranged Midget: Thank you for making this comment. Unless Superman is breathing Space-Time and/or Dark Matter, he's never been breathing in space.