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#1  Edited By EpicMeltDown

The main question of "Are comics still for kids?" should really be reworded to it's true intent, "Are mainstream superhero comics still for kids?" Of course the answer to that is obviously no. DC and Marvel have rating systems and all mainstream official canon books are rated Teen or more mature. It's been like that in the mainstream for a few decades now so I can't imagine why it would surprise anyone unless they have been away from comics for a while. And it's not as though adult oriented comics are a new thing since underground comics for adult audiences have existed almost since the inception of the medium.

If you compare comics to any other medium you see that most TV, most movies, most books, most music, etc are intended for a more adult audience or at least a late teen audience. Sure children's movies, books, etc are produced but not nearly to the same degree. Go to the movies today and you will probably find 1 family movie for every 10 adult oriented films. In this sense comics being generally more adult is a symptom of societies overall attitude toward entertainment.

Also, after reading several comments here it seems clear that a lot of people feel that Marvel and DC superheroes should be written for all ages. I think that's the bigger question. Should characters created for children stay for children? I can understand being upset with the idea that while I may have grown up reading Batman that was clean but still challenging for a younger reader that my kids don't really have the same option. They can read children's Batman geared for around 10 and younger or they can read Batman geared for maybe 16 and older. Maybe for their more popular characters Marvel and DC could provide at least one title which is in continuity but written for that early teen/young adult market. Something perhaps more in line tonally with the likes of Harry Potter. I think it would be good to provide that options but I don't really see a need for all Marvel/DC superheroes to remain all ages. I think rating systems for comics should be more clear and universal but I don't feel like all or even most Batman titles for instance need to be all ages.

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@om1kron: I was looking for the facebook post by Erik Larsen that you mentioned but I couldn't seem to find it. Do you have a link?

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#3  Edited By EpicMeltDown

So when I heard this the first thing that popped into my head is that this must be Gaiman's way of slapping McFarlane across the face with his court victory. I don't know if Gaiman is the sort to be petty but if I was him and really wanted to piss off McFarlane this is exactly what I would do.

As to whether or not this means that Marvel now owns Angela. I doubt it means anything of the sort. I'm sure it's just a licensing agreement like Dark Horse publishing Star Wars Comics or Boom Studios using Disney characters. Robert Kirkman used Invincible in an issue of Marvel Team Up once. I'm sure Gaiman still owns Angela.

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#4  Edited By EpicMeltDown

The problem with permanence of any kind in DC & Marvel's superhero universes is other writers. I may have a great idea for a story in which Spider-man meets his end in a grand and poetic fashion and everyone on staff may agree that it's the right way to go and that Spider-man should be dead permanently. However, a few years later I'm not writing at Marvel anymore and the editors who agreed to keep Spidey dead have changed their minds or moved on to other jobs. Eventually, someone else rolls into Marvel and says, 'Guys, it's stupid for Spider-man to be dead he needs to come back." No comic writer can make any promise and expect everyone who comes after them to keep it. It doesn't matter if everyone who works at DC & Marvel decide that while they're on the clock Dead is Dead. Within a few years people change jobs and suddenly Dead is Dead most of the time, and then some of the time, and back to almost never.

There is a solution however. You can't keep Spider-man dead but you can keep him alive. Just don't kill Marvel & DC superheroes. Killing Marvel & DC superheroes only fools new readers who haven't figured out the lay of the land yet. Everyone else just rolls their eyes and then begin betting on how long before they get resurrected. The best a long term fan can do is agree to pretend it'll keep. I would liken that to watching someone perform the old detachable thumb trick. The first time you saw it as a kid you were amazed but now it's boring. No one watches that as an adult and finds it entertaining. You just wondering why someone is trying to amaze you with something so obvious.

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#5  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I think it would be sloppy for Snyder to tell a story where the Joker is killed by anyone. We all know that the Joker would be brought back eventually so it doesn't have much kick. I also think that if the means of eventually bringing the Joker back from the dead is to say this arc featured some other psychopath who simply stole the Joker's face that the overall story would be weakened. Knowing that the Joker will be brought back and the end of this arc would be retconned should be reason enough for Snyder to stick the landing in a way that leaves the Joker alive.

As to how the Bat family would react to Damian killing the Joker? I suppose they would react the same way they have the last couple times. Everyone will be indignant in the moment and afterward it will mostly be forgotten except for the occasional "but Damian's a killer" remarks. What long term repercussions have their been from Damian killing the Ghost or killing Nobody? Nothing big really. Bruce yells at him maybe tells him he can't patrol tonight.

My final thought on the solicits featuring Bruce as a murderer: If Damian kills someone and Bruce can organize the situation so that Bruce himself seems guilty then why can't he equally organize the situation so that it looks like it was done in self defense and purchase the best defense money can buy. Realistically, Bruce has the money and intelligence to kill anyone he pleases and get away with it as disturbing as that might sound. Maybe that doesn't make for a very dramatic story and I know he's been on the run for murder before but honestly if the Batman were real the possibility of a murder charge would be just another easily evaded death trap.

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#6  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I was rewatching Being Human last night (the american version) and came to the conclusion that Sam Witwer needs to play Batman in the Justice League movie.

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#7  Edited By EpicMeltDown

Spoiler Alert:

He'll be fine...because he's Jim Gordon.

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#8  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I really do enjoy the Walking Dead as a show. This third season has been great so far but it bugs me when people pull the No One is Safe mantra about it. Rick is safe. Carl's safe. I would go as far as to say Michonne, Darrell, Glen, and Maggie are Safe. As to surprising deaths. I think the only surprising death in the whole series so far for me was Dale. Sure people died in surprising ways but that the character was going to die was not. And by that I mean the series has either A) picked around the edges of the important cast members and killed off characters that didn't really matter (ie: T-Dawg, Jim, Sophia, Patricia, Ed, Jacqui) or B) It was clear that the character had to die and the show had built toward it (ie: Lori, Shane, Randall, Tomas).

If anyone is really watching this show from week to week and are genuinely scared that Rick or Carl or anyone from my short list above will get killed that's great. I'm glad that the illusion is working for you but I guess I'm too cynical.

All that having been said, this is probably my favorite season so far. There is a good balance of character driven drama and action. The story is moving along. I like where things are going. I wonder how much of the prison story line from the comics will make it into this season. At this point, I'm not really sure how Woodbury and the Prison are going to intersect. I guess Merle is being setup as the key to that. I thought Merle was poised to rain fire down on Rick's group but now I feel like the character is capable of forgiving and forgetting if he can just find his brother alive. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

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#9  Edited By EpicMeltDown

@danhimself: So based on this there have been 4 Robins in 4 years. 2 of those years Jason Todd was Robin. Therefore, every Tim Drake story and every Damian story happened last year, at most. That is ridiculous. Especially when you consider that due to Damian's continued existence and the publication of Batman Inc you can't really throw out any of Morrison's run.

I'm excited for the day that someone retcons this into something a bit more sensible. I get that right now everybody at DC has to tow the company line but I hope in a few years somebody fixes this.

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#10  Edited By EpicMeltDown

I have always expected that Before Watchmen was to test the waters for an ongoing series. I know that's not what this Moloch book is but it's a step closer. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we have an official announcement about an ongoing series before the end of the year.