Ebony Bishop

"Colt Python is here...close."

Well, Buckshot is the guy with the scans...I just read the comic and did the math.

If you know every move your opponent will make, just make sure to be where you need to be to avoid that attack, and hit him first, hard.

As long as Midnighter is aware that he's in a fight with a speedster, and this isn't an ambush attack, he will more than likely take this, as he knows exactly where Flash will strike and move. He's clotheslined speedsters before, just because he knows where they're going to be. He doesn't have to react fast to beat Flash. He's seeing the probable future, and that gives him the edge.

If someone or something said "put your right arm up and flex it to hit someone.....NOW!", why would you need to know why, or who it was, or anything? By doing it, you win.

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A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's MUCH faster than Quicksilver.

Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien".

Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it?

Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe!

Flash wins this.

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that was said to pay homage to him but that acutally was a diss to Flash. I thought every one else got that, they were not gonna actually say Flash was faster."

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The_Creator says:

"Although Midnighter has the ability to see most/all of the fights outcomes/activities, he is still only so fast, only so durable and only so strong. Spiderman has faced stronger, faster and more durable foes before in hand to hand and come on easily on top. Spidereman is far stronger and quicker and I would say, he also has more endurance as well. For durability, I would say that Midnighter is better. As for the battle computer advantage, being able to see a fights activies before the event and being able to avoid them are different things. Midnighter has been manhandled by speedsters before. Although you may know the combination of blows going to be thrown, you still need to avoid them. Spiderman has too great a reaction speed and strength advantage to overcome in this context when you combine it with the slight offensive/defensive offset granted by his spider sense. Although only intuitive and not all seeing, it does allow some offset against the simulator. As for psychological warfare, Peter is strong enough to overcome it. "

Far stronger, I agree with, though I don't think that spells defeat. You don't need to be ridiculously strong for a nerve strike to work. Midnighter has killed enemies with a well placed poke before. And it's not as if any of Pete's punches, should they land, are going to stop Midnighter. First, he rarely uses his full strength, and second, Midnighter's durability, healing ability, redundant systems, and tolerance for pain, all working together mean he can keep going even when severely messed up. Far faster, I don't agree with. Excluding unmeasured bursts of speed, Midnighter normally operates at a very fast pace. I'm going past normal bullet dodging because of all the recent discussion, but he can parry bullets (fired from automatic weapons) with his staff. That's not just moving out of the general vicinity of a bullet or "dodging the gun", that's being able to calculate the trajectory of a fast moving projectile and react fast enough to put something relatively narrow exactly in it's path and then readjust and do it again and again for every bullet coming his way. I'm not saying he's faster than Spider-Man (Pete can do the exact same thing, there's pretty solid evidence for it) but I believe he's fast enough that he can, especially with something in his head that tells him what is going to happen long before it does, fight Spider-Man. I know that knowing what's going to happen and preventing it are two different things, I just don't think that Spider-Man is so fast that Midnighter won't be able to react. And could you refresh my memory on the speedsters that manhandled him?

Splitting this into two seperate things now, say the speed difference you say is there (and anything else that might unbalance it) is gone, now who wins? I'm talking about combat computer agains spider sense, this is the part of it that's of most interest to me.

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10 rings wouldn't be more powerful than 1 ring. Each ring is just a conduit for the users willpower, and each ring (other than Kyle Rayner's when he was the only Green Lantern) can make duplicate rings, each identical to the one that made it. If more rings equaled more power, wouldn't Hal or whoever just make more whenever the villain was too powerful? It doesn't matter, because each ring is just the same as any other, and multiple rings doesn't mean multiple willpowers.

Well, if Midnighter doesn't automatically kill everyone he fights, then yes, Madrox and Layla can lose. I thought Midnighter killed everyone. He damn well killed everyone in the comics I've read so far.

So...telepaths can't help the X-Men win against a team with Superman?

Man, don't tell Max Lord that. It didn't seem to stop him taking control of Supes. And I doubt Maxie was in Xavier's league.

I liked Storm and Forge. That seemed like a mature pairing. And I also liked Psylocke and Angel. Dazzler and Beast (obscure, but good).

And I liked where they were headed with Nightcrawler and Rachel Summers before she ended up off planet. I mean, who better to end up with a time-displaced alternate daughter than a guy who recently met his own?

My favourite that didn't happen? Northstar and Iceman. I don't know why, but Bobby's homophobia was hilarious, and only made him look like an idiot.

@LM3: Those scans were awesome, and reaffirmed my Nightcrawler love. Thank you. One of my all-time favourite X-Men.