Ducey13

This user has not updated recently.

396 0 5 1
Forum Posts Wiki Points Following Followers

Ducey13's forum posts

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1  Edited By Ducey13

@blitzkr1eg: @the_mighty_monarch: This is a tough one but I think together we may be able to get all of these Venoms identified.

ISSUE 1 Features: Superior Venom/Otto Octavius (Notes: Took me a while to identify this one because for some reason Crain didn't go with the raging, venomed out version of Superior and used this more subdued/controlled one. Plus I don't think his spider logo is an exact match to the comics). X-23 (From Edge of Venomverse 1). Mania/Andrea Benton (Sidekick of Agent Venom/Flash Thompson). Zombie Venom (Earth 2149). Poison/Peter Parker (From Earth 70134. This is a really obscure character and from the comic "What If? Spider-Man the Other from 2007. Basically after Morlun "Kills" Peter and he goes into his cocoon and the symbiote fuses with him permanently).

ISSUE 2 Features: Rocket Raccoon (This first happened somewhere in GOTG vol. 3 issue 21 or 22 during the Planet Venom story arc). Venomized T-Rex (From the Old Man Logan story Earth 807128). Space Knight Venom/Flash Thompson (From Planet Venom also). Street Disguise Eddie Brock (Another hard one to find. I believe this is from Amazing Spider-Man 375). Earth X May "Day" Parker (From Earth 9997)

ISSUE 3 Features: Venom/Eddie Brock (classic). Venom 2099/Kron Stone (Earth 298). Mayhem/April Parker (Clone of May "Day" Parker from MC2/Earth 982). Ultimate Venom/Eddie Brock Jr. (This is one i'm not 100% on. The lack of a spider symbol is usually an indicator for Ultimate Venom but artist renditions have varied).

ISSUE 4 Features: Venom/Eddie Brock "The Madness" (From the 3 issue mini series "Venom the Madness". This happens after the symbiote absorbs some toxic waste driving it mad). The Punisher (I could use some help figuring out when or where this one first shows up but I think the skull is enough evidence. There is a Venomized Punisher from Venomverse War Stories but he wears a jacket, bullet belt, and full mask. Once again this just could be a differing artistic interpretation). UNKNOWN (I have no idea who the big glowing blue Venom with the armor and hammer thing is. sorry. help!). Venom/Angelo Fortunalo (From Marvel Knights Spider-Man 2004, Angelo was a short lived Venom who received the symbiote after his gangster father bought it from Eddie Brock at a supervillain auction. Angelo's father thought the symbiote would toughen him up. Unfortunately for Angelo the symbiote sensed his weakness and abandoned him in mid air leaving Angelo to plunge to his death. The Symbiote would them move onto Mac Gargan). Venom/Lee Price (Lee would get the symbiote after Flash Thompson lost it in Venom 2016 by Mike Costa). Mary Jane/Spinneret (from Earth 18119 aka Renew Your Vows issue 8). Venom/Mac Gargan (Identified by the spider symbol. Sometimes Gargan was drawn with eyes in the white patches on his head and sometimes he wasn't. Sometimes his was man sized and sometime he was HULKED up size. Depends on the artist)

ISSUE 5 Features: Ultimate Venom II/Conrad Marcus (Conrad got the ultimate symbiote after Eddie Brock Jr.). She-Venom/Ann Weying (Eddie's Ex-wife from the Venom: Sinner Takes All mini series 1995). Pork Grind (Earth 8311). Agent Venom/Flash Thompson. Ghost Rider/Robbie Reyes (From Edge of Venomverse 3)

That's it from me guys. Hope it was helpful, and please if you have any info to add or can identify that one other venom I would appreciate it.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@glaucus: Wow dude, you want to reply to a two year old post and pick out a couple of sentences from the PAGES of dialogue I had? And at that go off subject from the original point I was trying to stress to that stubborn mule. I think I even got flagged because I got in his feels. I don't believe I said "Most fans" either, just that "People" would have felt that way. Meaning any number, nondescript. I know I've read different articles with writers and fans who prefer Gwen over Mary Jane. I'm not here to debate who's better or who Stan likes more. I was trying to point out how Spider-Man has gone through several MAJOR changes throughout his history, some for the better, some for the worse, yet the character continues to survive these changes no matter what.

And for anyone reading, not that I want to reopen this old debate, but I would like to point out that Tony and Mary Jane never slept together or dated or did much of anything. If fact she was completely under utilized in the book. So all the crying saying Bendis was going to ruin MJ was for nothing and those people were WRONG.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ducey13 said:

Bendis said he was leaving this book but how much longer??

He said in an interview that he would do a graphic novel-sized final issue once this last arch is done with issue #18. So probably around May-April.

Thanks for the info!

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ducey13 said:

Nobody's written a better Spider-Man in the last 15 years than Slott. He gets what Spider-Man is all about.

I almost spit my coffee out at that joke...wait ....you were joking right?

Just make sure you don't spill any on Slott's Spider-Man comics. It might be another 15 years before someone else puts together a run like this. BIG TIME, Spider-Island, Ends of the Earth, Superior, Spider-Verse, Zodiac, it goes on and on.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ducey13 said:
@zariusii said:
@ducey13 said:

Nobody's written a better Spider-Man in the last 15 years than Slott. He gets what Spider-Man is all about.

ROFL, that's a good one. Got any more a-list material funny man?

JMS, Peter David and Matt Fraction would like a word with you noob.

Just trying to educate the simpletons like yourself. Tell me, where is Matt Fraction's run on any Spider-Book ever? And are we talking about the same JMS who managed to write a story call ONE MORE DAY which was worse than the Clone Saga? What about that time he had Gwen Stacy sleep with Norman Osborn because she pitied him? That JMS? And as great as Peter David may be, where is his great Spider-Man run from the last 15 years??? And you call me the noob? Maybe you should think before you speak/type. ;)

Slott's stories revolve around humor, responsibility, and overcoming the odds. He's allowed Peter to grow up some while still keeping his core beliefs and elements the same. That's what Spider-Man is about.

  1. OMD was forced by Joe Quesada, JMS quit the book because of it.And you really blame the whole of JMS' run, for 3 issues?.....then i really can get a hold of this, to counterpoint the arguement on Slott, he has written MANY flawed issues...
  2. I don't see a "grown up" Peter Parker in any of Slott's issues.....he's more immature than ever, in my opinion....and don't thrown the "YEA BUT HE GOTS A COMPANY NOW!!!" arguement at me, if you are given a company, but you're acting and talking like a 16 year old, you're not mature....

And stop acting childish, talk like grown ups, this gows to all of you.

1 JMS still got a paycheck for OMD and the Stacy/Osborn twins. He's just as responsible as Quesada. That's more than 3 issues. And they're the 2 worse spider-Man stories in my lifetime. Also, I never said JMS's entire run was bad, the early stuff was quite good. But he still has the 2 worst spider-man stories I can think of on his resume.

2 Just because he's grown up in some aspects of his life doesn't mean he's going to stop with the 16yr old quips and that old Parker luck. And why would anyone want him too? Peter starting growing up during BIG TIME when he got a job at Horizon Labs. This allowed him to actually use his scientific genius to improve his gadgets and suits while developing groundbreaking technology for the company. It also meant no more broke Peter. But the same old problems were still there. Being late for appointments with Dates, Friends, Work, and Family. Having to choose the responsibilities of Spider-Man over Peter Parker's. Lying to people to keep his identity a secret and them safe. I have seen enough of Peter working for the Daily Bugle and even during Peter David's run on FNSM when he was a teacher that didn't feel right either.

And I'll talk however I want ;p especially when some jabroni laughs and calls me a noob. Talk to me with respek and I'll return it. Even when we disagree.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6  Edited By Ducey13

@knightwriteri said:

Peter David wrote a title called Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man at the same time as JMS's ASM and Sacasa's Sensational Spider-Man it was very good.

Norman being the father of Gwen's kids was Quesada's idea JMS wanted Peter to be the father but Quesada thought that would age Peter.

I am aware that Peter David wrote Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man (I doubt zariusii knew that). I have all the issues. But was it better than what Slott's done with Amazing/Superior over the last few years? I don't think so, not even close. To me while decent, there wasn't anything memorable about FNSM other than it crossover over with the other Spider-Man series during THE OTHER and OMD.

JMS still got a paycheck for those stories tho right? Quesada shares equal blame but in no way does that absolve JMS of 2 of the worst Spider-Man stories in my lifetime. And to be clear, I do like the JMS's early stuff on Spider-Man, but not more than Slott's entire run thus far.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@zariusii said:
@ducey13 said:

Nobody's written a better Spider-Man in the last 15 years than Slott. He gets what Spider-Man is all about.

ROFL, that's a good one. Got any more a-list material funny man?

JMS, Peter David and Matt Fraction would like a word with you noob.

Just trying to educate the simpletons like yourself. Tell me, where is Matt Fraction's run on any Spider-Book ever? And are we talking about the same JMS who managed to write a story call ONE MORE DAY which was worse than the Clone Saga? What about that time he had Gwen Stacy sleep with Norman Osborn because she pitied him? That JMS? And as great as Peter David may be, where is his great Spider-Man run from the last 15 years??? And you call me the noob? Maybe you should think before you speak/type. ;)

Slott's stories revolve around humor, responsibility, and overcoming the odds. He's allowed Peter to grow up some while still keeping his core beliefs and elements the same. That's what Spider-Man is about.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Nobody's written a better Spider-Man in the last 15 years than Slott. He gets what Spider-Man is all about.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ducey13 said:
@mark_stephen said:
@ducey13 said:
@mark_stephen said:
@ducey13 said:

@mark_stephen: That's just a straight up HATER comment right there.

Perhaps, however my personal feelings don't invalidate the statement. It is far easier to simply retread or recast established characters, play at swapping names and powers around, far safer financially and displays in my opinion a lazy approach to the stories than it is to come up with solid, non-copied, non-spunoff new characters and see if they can stand or fall on their own. Comics are now at 3.99 and up yet the number of new characters seem to be slowing each year while the number of new characters with the same or knock-off names are increasing. If by concluding that and stating it I am called a 'hater' then ok, call me what you want. Shout it (as you did) and it will have absolutely no effect on me.

What invalidates the statement is the fact that Marvel has continued to produce new Heroes (Kate Bishop, Pynapse, White Tiger, Kamala Khan, Sam Alexander, Smasher, ect.). and Villains (The Iron Nail, Doctor Mindbubble, Bravo, Scourge, Coyote, Ikari, Recorder 451, Ezekiel Stane, Darrio Addler the Minotaur, The Shredded Man, Lash, ect) over the last 10 years.

Ten years. There was a time they did that sort of thing ten times a month. Of the ones you state Kate Bishop is Hawkeye, a name that's been around a while. Same for the White Tiger whose name has been around since the 1970's and Karmala Khan took a name that had been used at least four times. None of them stood on their own. The Minotaur once faced Hawkeye and the Ghost Rider, I know the name of Stane from old times. And look what we have coming up; another civil war, the Red Skull is back, the X-men are facing Apocalypse... Variations on a theme, not original ideas. And all of it in my opinion way, way over priced.

Don't go off subject. Your original comment, which I said was a hater statement was "Skull has clones, Doom has Doom-bots. Lot easier than coming up with new villains."

I just cited several examples of "new villains" Marvel writers have created over the past few years, which proves you wrong. I also point out several heroes they created as well. And for the record these new heroes absolutely stand on their own. The Super names mean nothing. Spider-Man the name means nothing to who the character of Miles Morales is.

Yes it does. The title of the comic was not "Miles Morales" it was Spider-Man. The Super names mean everything, as marvel has shown by the frequency of which it switches them from one character to another. My original statement stands, the Red Skull has clones, Doom has Doom-bots; use of both characters or variations of those characters is a lot easier than coming up with new villains, both from a commercial and creative standpoint.

You want to label me as 'hater' go ahead, I've been called far worse by far better. Shout it, skywrite it across the internet, buy time on major tv networks and denounce me there if you want: my personal opinion stands and I'll state it when I wish.

You can't have it both ways. Criticizing Marvel when the reuse old Villains and criticizing them when they make up new villains. I'm not here to insult you or call you names worse than Hater. I don't do that unless provoked. But for the record you've NEVER met better than me ;) The reason I use the term "HATER" and said your statement was a "Hater Comment" is because you sound like you're going to hate whatever Marvel does. There's no pleasing you. You say the writers are lazy and that reusing old villains is easier than coming up with new ones. I names a few (and I can name a hundred more but it won't matter to you) new villains they've created in recent history and you criticize that too. If you don't like the newer villains they created then fine. I not here to convince you that they're these great characters and you must love them. You may not personally like them, but you can't say Marvel is lazy or isn't trying at making new characters. And you are sooooo very wrong about Miles and Kamala and all the other wonderful new characters Marvel has created. If the Miles, Kamala, Luna, Sam, and Kate all sucked as CHARACTERS nobody would care what mask or name they're using. CHARACTERS are what matter, not just a name.

Avatar image for ducey13
Ducey13

396

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

1

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10  Edited By Ducey13

@ducey13 said:
@mark_stephen said:
@ducey13 said:

@mark_stephen: That's just a straight up HATER comment right there.

Perhaps, however my personal feelings don't invalidate the statement. It is far easier to simply retread or recast established characters, play at swapping names and powers around, far safer financially and displays in my opinion a lazy approach to the stories than it is to come up with solid, non-copied, non-spunoff new characters and see if they can stand or fall on their own. Comics are now at 3.99 and up yet the number of new characters seem to be slowing each year while the number of new characters with the same or knock-off names are increasing. If by concluding that and stating it I am called a 'hater' then ok, call me what you want. Shout it (as you did) and it will have absolutely no effect on me.

What invalidates the statement is the fact that Marvel has continued to produce new Heroes (Kate Bishop, Pynapse, White Tiger, Kamala Khan, Sam Alexander, Smasher, ect.). and Villains (The Iron Nail, Doctor Mindbubble, Bravo, Scourge, Coyote, Ikari, Recorder 451, Ezekiel Stane, Darrio Addler the Minotaur, The Shredded Man, Lash, ect) over the last 10 years.

Ten years. There was a time they did that sort of thing ten times a month. Of the ones you state Kate Bishop is Hawkeye, a name that's been around a while. Same for the White Tiger whose name has been around since the 1970's and Karmala Khan took a name that had been used at least four times. None of them stood on their own. The Minotaur once faced Hawkeye and the Ghost Rider, I know the name of Stane from old times. And look what we have coming up; another civil war, the Red Skull is back, the X-men are facing Apocalypse... Variations on a theme, not original ideas. And all of it in my opinion way, way over priced.

Don't go off subject. Your original comment, which I said was a hater statement was "Skull has clones, Doom has Doom-bots. Lot easier than coming up with new villains."

I just cited several examples of "new villains" Marvel writers have created over the past few years, which proves you wrong. I also point out several heroes they created as well. And for the record these new heroes absolutely stand on their own. The Super names mean nothing. Spider-Man the name means nothing to who the character of Miles Morales is.