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#1  Edited By drago666

Dante seems to be setting up to be a better Diaz (in terms of being a threat) at the moment which is why I hate him.

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Gorilla Grodd threw around a forklift with ease, one handed. They usually weigh about 5 000-8 000 lbs.

I don't think throwing around 4 tons is impressive for spider-man. Its a good feat considering he threw it with one hand but its no where near spider-man catching the jet bridge which is arguably not his best feat. I don't really like relying on fan calcs but I just think spider-mans jet bridge is on another level when watching both scenes. If we are getting into speculation this is a good video which does the math on spider-man's jet bridge feat for comparison (you can skip to 1:30 if you don't want to watch the whole thing):

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Now Grodd is throwing 4 tons one handed so he obviously is much stronger...But I don't imagine his strength being at this level. I also don't imagine Grodd stopping a strike from cull obsidian, hurting giant man, staggering thanos, or catching a car thrown by cull the way spider-man did.

KS has solid feats from before of tossing Barry threw a building and ripping a building apart with his bare hands,

I don't remember him ripping a building apart. When you say tossing Barry through a building are you talking about the crossover? Because King Shark threw Barry through 2 windows and a wall which I don't view out of spider-mans league either.

he also launched the same forklift 30 ft in the air. Both have effectively tagged Barry in combat multiple times and have really fast moving speeds as well. Grodd has even caught a super sonic punch, that's actually ridiculous.

When it comes to tagging Barry I feel like he jobs a lot. He's been tagged by humans without super human reaction when he logically shouldn't get tagged. He tends to get surprised, or acts arrogant a lot, or sometimes their is a lot of PIS on the show. This isn't to say any instance of Barry being tagged isn't legit I just feel like tagging him doesn't make king shark or Grodd automatically faster.

Grodd catching the super sonic punch is legit and measurable I will say. He has faster reactions than spider-man, but I think spider-man is more maneuverable. I give grodd the advantage in durability but spider-man isn't a slouch when you consider the hits he took from shocker. As I said Spider-man has the advantage of webbing.

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After the last Flash episode I'm confident that both monsters are stronger as well as way faster with ridiculous blunt force durability.

I didn't see them do anything comparable to catching a jet bridge. I also don't recall seeing any speed feats. blunt force is a maybe but I think that is mostly based on past feats.

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Mismatch. Either of team 1 solos

How? Spider-man is stronger than either and has long range attacks. Black Panther is outclassed physically but has vibranium claws and can hit them back with their own kinetic energy. I can see Black Panther losing to either but I would say Spider-man the is the MVP.

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Grodd is stronger, has greater reaction time, and is much more durable than Peter. So unless Peter webs his throat or something the Ape will manhandle him

Tchalla isn’t besting them both

What makes you say Grodd is stronger?

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Personally I think the monsters have a huge advantage when it comes to intimidation and ruthlessness but I think spider-man is quite a bit stronger.

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Gorilla Grodd & King Shark

VS
VS

Black Panther & Spider-Man

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Rules

  • In character
  • No prep
  • Win by any means
  • Standard gear
  • Grodd cannot use his Telepathy on spider-man & black panther
  • CW & MCU versions of characters

Location

  • Begin visible
  • Begin 50 feet apart
  • Unpopulated, cars are stationary
  • Fight takes place here:
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Who wins and why?

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@lvenger said:

Cates is a solid pick to replace Aaron on Thor but hoo boy his praise of Aaron as the 'greatest Thor run of all time' is not exactly appealing.

Well Cates clearly did like the first story with Gorr since he touched up on it in his Venom run. They are also coworkers.

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What do you guys think?