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@scouterv said:

@dondave: So have a lot of villains. So has Batman. If you have no problem watching Batman, you have no problem seeing Villains more than once. And what do Batarangs have to do with a story about finding out how to help Nora Fries while saving her husband from a life behind bars where he'll never see his wife again?

And alternatively, if you really wanna get that simple about it, Freeze gun to the head. Game over.

I have no problem watching Batman but I have no interest in watching as they cycle through the same 9 villains over and over again. They had the chance to tell Mr Freeze's story, they didn't do it well, move on.

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@scouterv: Scarecrow, Freeze and Riddler have been done before. I have no interest in seeing the same Bat villains again. Regarrding Mr Freeze, exploding Batarang to his Cryothermal gun; game over.

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@entropy_aegis: Isn't Prometheus just as much as Justice League and Green Arrow villain as he is a Batman villain? Seems like the same problem people have with Deathstroke would be seen there as well. Wrath would be cool but suffers from not having that many appearances and therefore probably wouldn't have been on the minds of the decision makers.

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@dondave: Id argue Man-Bat could be a seriously awesome villain if done right. Hed have to be a big threat like he was in "The Batman". Cant be one of those jokers that Damian Wayne one shots.

That's my reason exactly. He's no longer a serious threat to anyone and Man-Bat isn't getting anyone into theatres. Others like Croc and Clayface etc are just as useless as most of Batman's rogues gallery.

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What A-List Batman who hasn't shown on screen before would you suggest for the part then? WB is hoping for another billion dollar Batman movie, they aren't going to sell the audience on a purely psychological villain. That isn't even to say that there can't be a psychological villain in The Batman but that to get people in seats there has to an A-List villain who can realistically give Batman a hard physical challenge.

Uh, let's see: Clayface, Black Mask, Firefly, Killer Croc, Killer Moth, Man-Bat, Mad Hatter, etc. etc. etc. They could even try and get Poison Ivy right after Uma Thurman's turn as her in Batman & Robin. All of these options would even have been more suitable if they were trying to go for a more "comic-booky" movie.

Its not that Deathstroke is completely alien to the Batman universe. He's not, especially because of his link to Nightwing. But its become a pattern for DC to take all of their good villains and herd them into the Batman universe. Deathstroke is most notable for his role as a Titans villain, but now people who don't know comics will just think that he's another Batman villain, furthering the stereotype that everything good in the DCU is from the Batman universe.

None of them can headline a movie with Batman.

Clayface, Killer Moth, Man Bat, Mad Hatter, Firefly and Killer Croc would never co-headline a Batman movie at it's main villain. They're B-Listers for a reason. Black Mask could work but there's no reason he can't be there person who hired Deathstroke to kill Batman just like it was thought to be in Arkham Origins.

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Yeah he has way more history with the Teen Titans, and Dick Grayson alone, than he does with Batman. That's irrelevant to the studio execs though who want one badass to fight another.

So you'd rather that they never use Deathstroke in live action because he has more history with the Teen Titans; a franchise that doesn't look like it getting its movie any time soon?

He also has history with Nightwing a small fight scene or cameo would be ok. But Batman has WAY MORE ROGUES TO USE, They shouldn't taking villians from other people though he is a mercenary

Deathstroke isn't exclusive to to the Teen Titans, he has the most personal history with them but they're not the only heroes he's faced. It's not like Bruce has never met him in the comics and his appearance has come out of nowhere. And quite honestly most of his remaining A-list villains who haven't been seen on screen before aren't formidable enough to be a physical threat for the DCEU Batman.

Batman HAS A WHOLE ROGUES GALLERY FOR A REASON THAT IS INTERESTING, He has A,B,C,D listers for villians if it can't be a physical threat then it should be psychological threat

What A-List Batman who hasn't shown on screen before would you suggest for the part then? WB is hoping for another billion dollar Batman movie, they aren't going to sell the audience on a purely psychological villain. That isn't even to say that there can't be a psychological villain in The Batman but that to get people in seats there has to an A-List villain who can realistically give Batman a hard physical challenge.

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Yeah he has way more history with the Teen Titans, and Dick Grayson alone, than he does with Batman. That's irrelevant to the studio execs though who want one badass to fight another.

So you'd rather that they never use Deathstroke in live action because he has more history with the Teen Titans; a franchise that doesn't look like it getting its movie any time soon?

He also has history with Nightwing a small fight scene or cameo would be ok. But Batman has WAY MORE ROGUES TO USE, They shouldn't taking villians from other people though he is a mercenary

Deathstroke isn't exclusive to to the Teen Titans, he has the most personal history with them but they're not the only heroes he's faced. It's not like Bruce has never met him in the comics and his appearance has come out of nowhere. And quite honestly most of his remaining A-list villains who haven't been seen on screen before aren't formidable enough to be a physical threat for the DCEU Batman.

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Yeah he has way more history with the Teen Titans, and Dick Grayson alone, than he does with Batman. That's irrelevant to the studio execs though who want one badass to fight another.

So you'd rather that they never use Deathstroke in live action because he has more history with the Teen Titans; a franchise that doesn't look like it getting its movie any time soon?

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Aquaman is badass and people need to stop saying he's lame

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What the heck is going on with Hellcat's neck?