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#1 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

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Yes Marvel ,make him look like the movie version for no reason whatsoever

I'm sure the reason is to attract new readers, so when they pick up a cap comic for the first time they don't put it right back down because he is in dorky spandex

The thing about Cap is even if he's in a 'dorky spandex' costume, that's not what matters about him, but the hero and the symbol (crap that sounded like some PR BS). But you have to understand that for most people this isn't THE Captain america costume and never will be. This is just a fad to cash in on the popularity of the movies and the trend to make superheroes look realistic.

I understand. Im sure for longtime readers like you the hero and the symbol and all that about cap will still be there, only difference is now cap can get more new readers with an outfit that isn't dated, and (IMO) look less dorky.

The thing is movies never seem to be able to get more new readers and the changes made in the comics to make them more appealing to the moviegoers usually ends up alienating long time readers. Most people who goes to watch Iron Man, or the Avengers would never pick up a comic book especially not on a regular basis. If the movies and the changes like this would make people who never picked up an issue before do so, the sales wouldn't be down like they are now and we wouldn't see a series cancellation every other week or a renumbering initiative every six months.

haha actually i got into comics after watching THe Dark Knight.

I went to barnes and noble like a week after watching TDK and saw batman: the long halloween TPB, haha i thought it was nerdy at the time, but i bought it anyway, loved it, and now I'm a comic reader, spending a small fortune on as many TPBs or HCs as my money will allow. I've been trying to break into Marvel comics for awhile since I've always been DC, and Marvel NOW will most likely let me.

Awwwww... you're so adorable and naive (minor offense intended). You might be one of the few exceptions, but the fact is, that moviegoers rarely become regular readers and represent a small part in the total number of readers. It's great for you that you tried and liked the comic book experience and I hope you'll be able to get into marvel easily in Now, but chances are against you. Continuity won't change the stories that led to this point will be there especially the ones after 2000 and Bendis' events. If Nova and Rocky will truly play as big a role in the new initiative as the execs say, you probably will have to catch up on space stories starting with Annihilation and everything after.

Exactly.No offense but the number of so the so called mythical movie goer turned comic book reader is negligible.Changing a costume is all well and good but why make it like the ones in the movie which in turn is based off the Ultimate U one? I'm no Cap fan but I just think is silly as not just costumes but continuity itself seems to be changing drastically :(

There probably would be no reason for him to read annihilation (apart from the awesomeness :)) to catch up on any thing as the new Nova - samwhathisface - is no Rich.I miss Rich but Noooooo Loeb had to take it and do his usual thing to it.

He might might not have to read it, but everything in the cosmic part is so tied together starting with Annihilation that it might be strongly recommended (even out of sheer awesomeness). Btw Rich "died" (yes with the quotation, since there's no permanent death except for uncle Ben and Batman's parents [hope I didn't jinx anything]) in the Thanos Ignition which was done by DnA. I miss Rich too, he became a great character after Annihilation and I miss the ongoing Nova. What I don't understand about this Samgengericguy is how he got to be a Nova. It was stated clearly in Thanos imperative #6 and the Devastation one-shot afterwards that Rich drained all the Nova force from Quasar and the probies and he Worldmind shut down completely after the Fault was sealed and they couldn't awaken it. Ergo there's no Nova force in the universe which is kinda a requirement for a Nova corpsman. Plus who is this Samicantrememberhislastname guy? He wasn't a probie, so what's his connection to the Corps? When i first saw him in Point one I honestly hoped that is was Robbie, that he figured out a way to reboot the Worldmind and restore a small portion of the force. But no, they had to bring in a new character who as it turned out to be is based on the Nova in the USM cartoon just to capitalize on that. This is what I hate. Leave the comics alone, don't try to make them like the movies and cartoons, because it doesn't work. Draw inspiration them for awesome stuff like the Avengers movie, but don't try to mash them together. Oh and I still hope Rich will return soon which might be implied by the one of the Now teasers that shows (a) Star Lord, which I really hope is not another new character hust connect it to the GotG movie or something, but the real one and if he could return somehow, there might be hope for Rich. http://marvel.com/images/gallery/story/19038/who_will_shape_the_future_of_marvel_now/image/927273.

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#2 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98 said:

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@elayem98 said:

@Don_Jay said:

@elayem98 said:

@jubeiyagyuX said:

Yes Marvel ,make him look like the movie version for no reason whatsoever

I'm sure the reason is to attract new readers, so when they pick up a cap comic for the first time they don't put it right back down because he is in dorky spandex

The thing about Cap is even if he's in a 'dorky spandex' costume, that's not what matters about him, but the hero and the symbol (crap that sounded like some PR BS). But you have to understand that for most people this isn't THE Captain america costume and never will be. This is just a fad to cash in on the popularity of the movies and the trend to make superheroes look realistic.

I understand. Im sure for longtime readers like you the hero and the symbol and all that about cap will still be there, only difference is now cap can get more new readers with an outfit that isn't dated, and (IMO) look less dorky.

The thing is movies never seem to be able to get more new readers and the changes made in the comics to make them more appealing to the moviegoers usually ends up alienating long time readers. Most people who goes to watch Iron Man, or the Avengers would never pick up a comic book especially not on a regular basis. If the movies and the changes like this would make people who never picked up an issue before do so, the sales wouldn't be down like they are now and we wouldn't see a series cancellation every other week or a renumbering initiative every six months.

haha actually i got into comics after watching THe Dark Knight.

I went to barnes and noble like a week after watching TDK and saw batman: the long halloween TPB, haha i thought it was nerdy at the time, but i bought it anyway, loved it, and now I'm a comic reader, spending a small fortune on as many TPBs or HCs as my money will allow. I've been trying to break into Marvel comics for awhile since I've always been DC, and Marvel NOW will most likely let me.

Awwwww... you're so adorable and naive (minor offense intended). You might be one of the few exceptions, but the fact is, that moviegoers rarely become regular readers and represent a small part in the total number of readers. It's great for you that you tried and liked the comic book experience and I hope you'll be able to get into marvel easily in Now, but chances are against you. Continuity won't change the stories that led to this point will be there especially the ones after 2000 and Bendis' events. If Nova and Rocky will truly play as big a role in the new initiative as the execs say, you probably will have to catch up on space stories starting with Annihilation and everything after.

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#3 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98 said:

@Don_Jay said:

@elayem98 said:

@jubeiyagyuX said:

Yes Marvel ,make him look like the movie version for no reason whatsoever

I'm sure the reason is to attract new readers, so when they pick up a cap comic for the first time they don't put it right back down because he is in dorky spandex

The thing about Cap is even if he's in a 'dorky spandex' costume, that's not what matters about him, but the hero and the symbol (crap that sounded like some PR BS). But you have to understand that for most people this isn't THE Captain america costume and never will be. This is just a fad to cash in on the popularity of the movies and the trend to make superheroes look realistic.

I understand. Im sure for longtime readers like you the hero and the symbol and all that about cap will still be there, only difference is now cap can get more new readers with an outfit that isn't dated, and (IMO) look less dorky.

The thing is movies never seem to be able to get more new readers and the changes made in the comics to make them more appealing to the moviegoers usually ends up alienating long time readers. Most people who goes to watch Iron Man, or the Avengers would never pick up a comic book especially not on a regular basis. If the movies and the changes like this would make people who never picked up an issue before do so, the sales wouldn't be down like they are now and we wouldn't see a series cancellation every other week or a renumbering initiative every six months.

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#4 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98 said:

@jubeiyagyuX said:

Yes Marvel ,make him look like the movie version for no reason whatsoever

I'm sure the reason is to attract new readers, so when they pick up a cap comic for the first time they don't put it right back down because he is in dorky spandex

The thing about Cap is even if he's in a 'dorky spandex' costume, that's not what matters about him, but the hero and the symbol (crap that sounded like some PR BS). But you have to understand that for most people this isn't THE Captain america costume and never will be. This is just a fad to cash in on the popularity of the movies and the trend to make superheroes look realistic.

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#5 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

To all the people starting a rage over this: give it some time (to events tops) and he'll be back in the old costume...

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#6 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no problem with the new outfit except the helmet. I really like the classic Cap mask with the goofy wingtips. This one is too much like the Ultimate/movie helmet and honestly it might be a bit confusing. But the rest of the outfit looks something a soldier would wear as a uniform and it looks good imho.

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#7 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I don't really like the ongoing Deadpool since the end of Magnum Opus. Even before that I didn't like it as much as Cable & Deadpool, because it basically ignored every growth Deadpool's character had in Cable & Deadpool. At the end of Nicieza's run Deadpool was on the way of becoming a hero (a crazy one at that, but a hero still), not just a merc. He started to find his place in the world and had some great supporting characters with Sandy, Outlaw, Agent X, Bob, Weasel and of course Cable (up until Cable's supposed death in the series before his return in Messiah Complex). All I'm trying to say is even though the current ongoing can be really fun, I still couldn't get over the changes that were made after Cable & Deadpool. In my opinion the best Deadpool depiction is in Uncanny X-Force right now, it seems to understand the character much better and doesn't portrays him as a rambling, hallucinating idiot the current ongoing likes to do so often.

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@Don_Jay: He has become similar to magneto but with good reason... everytime they turn around there being attacked by someone or somthing. Now its the avengers the people who used to be considered there friends.. came to there house demanding to take control of the situation. the mutants say no.. & what happens? they get attacked beatin down & now there island is under control of shield.

I love the avengers too but they have zero right to do this considering they werent even there for half the stuff the x men & mutant kind has been through. the whole dark Phoenix jean grey incident.. avengers? No where to be found

That time when magneto captured professor x strung him up & almost lead the mutate nation of geniosha to a world war.. avengers? no where to be found

when have the avengers took proactive action against the purifiers? or the sentential? where were they during operation zero tolerance? no where to be found... & now they want to jump in & help? lol come on man & Wolverine.. thats anothers story all together...

First: Operation Zero Tolerance happened right after Onslaught, when most of the Avengers were"dead". They couldn't do much about that.

Second: The Avengers want to protect the world, not just a select few. Scott Summers at this point only ares about the resurrection of the mutant race no matter what the cost is. He only sees the rebirth aspect of the Phoenix, not the destructive. In the past few years Cyclops became more and more obsessive about the survival of the mutants (which I can't blame him for given the situation of the mutant race), but it also clouded his judgement. Right now he's more like the weird guy who stockpiles weapons and rations in his cabin in the woods. He's supposed to be a leader and a master tactician, who's able to see the different angles in any given situation. But right now he behaves like a maniac risking the whole planet on a gamble that Hope might be able to control the Phoenix. It's like he forgot what the Phoenix did to Jean. So yeah, Cyclops deserves to be brought down hard.

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#9 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me guess: Either House of X, or House of C...

I personally love both the X-Men and the Avengers, but at this point I'm on the Avengers' side for one reason: Cyclops has gone too far. He's becoming something really similar to Magneto (except of course the civilian human casualties). I mean you know he's gone quite cray when Wolverine becomes a voice of reason in a situation and makes more sense than the supposed leader of mutantkind...

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#10 Posted by Don_Jay (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: Well, from what I know they might be released a bit later, since the main theme of the Marvel LEGOs is The Avengers so I think it's safe to assume that the main focus is on that (especially since there's only 2 sets not related to the Avengers movie). Plus for me it's a little different since I'm writing from Europe, so we don't have Walmarts :D