DigitalShooter9

@deaditegonzo: The only reason superman seems godlike to you is because he is an alien right? Look, no matter how strong he seems, he is NOT A GOD. He could be an enhanced creature or some kind of an alien human mixture, but the point is none of his achievements would matter when he faces batman. You see when you just compare these 2 , the outcome depends on the powers of each character compared to each others. For example if superman can bench press the earth, that doesnt mean he didnt and wouldnt get busted by some kryptonite incorporated into a form that batman uses on one of his gadgets. These fights are situational,, so what a character could do in his own universe wouldnt matter as long as he fights someone that could take advantage of his weakness perfectly. To make this clear Im not talking about the animated series superman or the animated series batman, Im talking about the general characters on average. And yet, I still see lots of superman fans that wont accept supes losing to bats MULTIPLE TIMES( in fact, a comic published on 1991- Superman annual, actually features batman killing supes) stop denying it, superman has beaten villains batman cant beat and Im fine with that, one example being doomsday where they both ended up killing each other, now Im sure batman cant even tie with doomsday, but that DOES NOT MEAN HE CANT BEAT SUPES BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY DID. And if you still think superman is smarter, think about what happened between batman and darkseid where batman used his mind to make him back off while supes had to wreck himself and fight with darkseid. This shows the difference between the intelligence of bats and supes and I still insist on saying bats is smarter.

@deaditegonzo: I dont get how normal doomsday could literally beat superman to death but the knite version cant. I also dont get how batman coukd beat supes with kryptonite but doomsday cant. This just doesnt add up, even normal doomsday could kill supes how come the kryptonite version cant? And one other thing, supes definately is not half as smart as batman, when it comes to intellect, supes is no smarter than a monkey next to bats, stop telling me he offered to improve his guns he cant. No offense to any superman fans but all supes could do is punch and all his fanboys make him look overpowered. Trust me, if he was that OP he wouldnt have got OWNED by bats multiple times. Stop making excuses, get over it batman> superman. And also, supes probably would have problems when he is facing scarecrow or the joker. And please no one telll me a bloodlusted supes kills everyone in less than a second, hes not a frickin god.

@eternal19: When I said batman will get the drop on supes, I meant that he will fight him with a full plan of what he will do as he knows the weakness of prettymuch everyone he could have a battle with. Now, If this was a cage fight between bats and the supes, bats would be dead in 2 seconds I agree with that. But bruce wayne would plan everything before he encounters him. For example he wouldnt fight him in a small room. He would lure him into a place to his advantage. For instance a place in which he could easily disappear into the darkness. He would have kryptonite witth him along with everything he needs. After all of that prep what could a bloodlusted supes do? I mean batman wouldnt just face him in a fist fight but more like in a battle where he uses evrything at his disposal. Supes is only good at fighting, nothing else, whereas batman, despite being a normal human outmatches him on all the other categories such as skill, intelligence, stealth, escapology,. Batman is known for being almost limitless with prep. Do you understand what I mean?

@mk111: He would desteroy all of them except the joker, scarecrow and bane(maybe)

@deaditegonzo: Allright, there are some serious misconceptions here. Did you actually mean to say superman is SMARTER than BATMAN? You are obviously a superman fanatic. But that just doesnt make sense, how could superman possibly outsmart the worlds greatest detective? Now thats impossible, Superman is pretty much a boy scout, not saying he is stupid, but he definetly is not a genious. Compared to batmans skill and intelect, supermans skill and intellect would be the size of an ant. Superman is stronger than batman I get that, but when it comes to a battle batman will win because he is most likely to get the drop on supes. I would advise you to read batman comics. Perhaps tgen you would know all about how he is able to to own the whole JLA, refer to Tower of Babel(dont know the exact issue sorry) For everyone that keeps saying supes holds back, so does batman. I mean its in batmans philosophy to not kill. That would equal to holding back. For example when batman battled the supes, he was also holding back since all he wanted was to save supes from being controlled by Poison Ivy, he didnt want to seriously hurt him. If it was a bloodlusted battle to death, Im sure batman (if allowed) could have used knite to kill supes. But batman doesnt kill and that means every single fight batmans in, he hold back. Supes isnt immortal, he was killed by doomsday just by getting heavily beaten, think about what would happen if batman used all his skill gadgets stealth, intellect along with kryptonite in a bloodlusted fight against supes. No matter how strong he is, batman is smart enough to posses knite in different forms. Also if you want to know how joker would beat supes, ill post a scenario be sure to check it out. Also superman cant withstand fear toxin or laughing gas as they arent ordinary chemicals and as they target the brain.

@eternal19: MIND CONTROL, That is what I am talking about. How could supes hold back under mind control? I mean there were occasions which he held back, but he definately didnt while he was possesed by poison ivy.

@eternal19: 1. He did it, multiple times, and they were all fair fights which supes wasnt holding back. Hence superman called him the most dangerous man on earth, get over it guys, supes lost to batman, stop being such a fanboy and overpowering supes.

@deaditegonzo: You are either a hardcore superman fan or a batman hater.

Now, where should I start? First of all batman did beat superman in a fair fight, in fact he has done it multiple times and supes wasnt holding back when he was possesed by poison ivy. He did use k nite to beat him but the thing is batman knows how to take down superman using k nite in which lex luthor doesnt: He does posses knite but cant incorporate it in a way to take down supes, thats something only batman could do. Stop telling me stuff like superman can desteroy gotham and all its villains in a heartbeat, he cant u are just overpowering him. If you want to know how the joker could beat supes then ill give u an example. Joker is smarter and more strategically enhanced than superman, he will come up with a way to use knite just like batman did. If you want an example he could incorporate knite into his laughing gas or something like that but He has many other options that he could use to kill supes . Scarecrow on the other hand could cause problems to batman who is much much much more smarter then supes. Just think about how effective his powers will be on supes, he could literally make supes cry for his mom. The thing with batman villains is that they are all psychologically threatening and more likely to just kill you by surprise. Supes might outmatch them physically, but when it comes to all the manipulative bat villains, he has no chance.

@sog7dc: Do you actually think lex luthor is smarter than batman? If he had half the genious level batman did he would have killed supes like a millin times already. I mean supes lost to batman and if lex is smarter than batman then i dont see why lex havent beaten superman yet.

I think the author has a point though,

Now lets see, Im sure no one can match supes in physical fights so bane and clayface arent a threat, but on the other hand battles arent all about physical fights. I think the joker can easily own supes, not beat him down but like find a way to get him eventually killed mainly because of the fact that he is a psychopath and unpredictible. Joker will find kryptonite and he has the potential to think of a cruel plan that will end up in supermans death. Scarecrow on the other hand can pretty much do anything he wants to superman, in fact he could even make him cry for his mom. Out of all the superheroez, batman is the only person that could face joker and scarecrow only because of his immunity and usage of fear.