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If Asta is actually LS or even close to LS he should win no diff if not then it’s Mel vs Ulq with Mel winning

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Renji should blitz and one shot all rounds

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Mel is physically stronger but Naruto should still win with speed advantage

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@smokak: What do you mean why?

Did you not see how much stronger he was after the Grimmjow fight?

Using his mask which i never disagreed with

Ichigo got stronger after every fight he was in until using up all his energy in Dangai. It's a major theme of the show.

I mean went from being less than lieutenant level in the SS arc to one shotting multiple lieutenants. It's obvious he progresses after every fight.

He consistently had multiple training sessions during SS arc and before reaching hecuo mundo so of course his bankai would get stronger again never disagreed with it

Again, scaling Ulquiorra to a stronger version of Ichigo that he never fought is fallacious.

I'm scaling Ulquiorra to a weaker version of Ichigo since he stomped a stronger version nothing fallacious here unless you prove to me that base bankai Ichigo got stronger than v1 masked Ichigo which i have no problem with but you can't just claim that he is stronger based on nothing.

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@leothegreatest: That's because Ulq was limiting himself the moment Ichigo told him he became more human he blitzed him twice and was about to kill him again if not for orihime's shield being up.

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@leothegreatest: His mask definitely got stronger but we have nothing to link his mask getting an amp to his base getting an amp too, even if his base gets an amp it makes no sense for it to be stronger than him with the mask which is equivalent to a bankai if that was true he would've stomped Grimmjow the moment he got a new mask since that would be at least 5x from base and 5x from the new mask which clearly isn't the case.

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@man_of_miracles: You ignored everything else? you are claiming Ichigo's mask getting an amp meaning his base gets an amp as well which is based on nothing but headcanon, base ichigo < v1 masked ichigo < v2 masked ichigo , ulquiorra blitzed v1 masked ichigo, base bankai saw mach 1000 buto renjin, you are saying base ichigo got stronger than v1 masked ichigo which I'll repeat again is headcanon so yes you have to prove it.

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@man_of_miracles: We know his mask got a boost you have no basis what so ever on his base bankai getting a boost as well you are more than welcome to prove me wrong, trying to turn this to a bleach thing is pathetic i have no problem with backwards scaling at all for any series as long as its logical and makes sense in the story, he is casually above mach 1000 in r1 by feats unless you prove otherwise.

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Lmao at needing anything close to relativistic speeds not to get stomped by snakeman