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#1 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge:

The scan with Tony is what i was asking was an outside feat.

1. Well, I'm pretty sure he thought he died( i know i did) but i stand corrected.

Discussing this part is becoming tedious. I don't see how your best friend being wonded, you finding out your friend murdered your wife along with millions for a shit reason in a short span isn't outside help.

2.Sigh... So hulk stopped holding back and wanted to be taken down?

It's quite obvious he couldn't control that power. He got to mad.

3.Pff you suck at debunking then.

4. Look at him, he seems calm and is human but his eyes aren't green. This goes to back to what i was saying about the eyes being art.

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#2 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

Apart from the fact that Sentry is also reverting so he has no risks.

They did it at the same time which is why that fight is regarded as a stalemate.

He never wanted to get that powerful, he almost destroyed the Earth and begged them to stop him. Hulks already has access to enough anger without Miek wounding his friend(you know his wife and child where killed he came to wage a war because of it), that's not outside help.

Doesn't matter what he wanted. His friend dies and he finds his friend killed his wife along with millions shortly after.

What would most likely make you more mad. Your wife and child dying in your arms and thinking your former friends did it or your best friend dying, you attacking your friends for damn near nothing, and then finding one of your friends ended up killing your wife and child? Most likely the second one.

He saved the people of Earth from Sentries outburst?

I still see no reason he would turn into a human, beating sentry then staying the way he is would suffice

No it isn't and i already explained why.

Yes it is for reasons i already explained why.

I have another question.

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Was this an outside feat?

The green eyes have always been the indication of radiation, he might "look" calm but he just went toe to toe with Sentry after already fighting a ton of Marvel heroes in a span of less then 24 hours. I mean he also looked pretty calm against Strange only to trick him and revert to his WWH form instantly.

They where both already reverting at the same time.

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Well it was in his head.

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@natedwag: He reverted to his human form willingly, i mean he even still had gamma in his eyes and reverted back to an even more powerful form seconds later, this contradicts people saying he exhausted himself. Unless you want to argue that he exhausted himself from not feeling anger anymore then i can agree with that, Hulk did not feel much anger towards Sentry and was calming down realizing the 2 of them could destroy everything.

Aha.

The confusion coming from exhausting ones energies only to expend even more so seconds later.

That analogy is completely false, since you are siting and outside source/amp with Clark. Hulks anger is not an outside source, Hulk did not go to a nuclear reactor to refill his energies or swallow a gamma bomb, he did it on his own.

He turned back into a human because he realized what he and Sentry where doing, Hulk came there for revenge, REVENGE. On the puny humans and the ones that shot him into space but he actually found himself saving them from Sentry, as was stated in the comic he had no reason to do that he would have survived Sentries outburst but the rest of the people there wouldn't have.

I have at least 3 solid things to back up my claims, whether you want to deal with it or not, you have 1 thing that is debunked and contradicted and does not hold as much water as the comic itself and the other is your silly analogy that debunks itself.

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reverted during that time on purpose would be incredibly risky. He has no actual reason to do that, unless he's suicidal.

Unless you want to argue that he exhausted himself from not feeling anger anymore then i can agree with that,

ehhh ill need more time to think about that, i might agree with that.

That analogy is completely false, since you are siting and outside source/amp with Clark. Hulks anger is not an outside source, Hulk did not go to a nuclear reactor to refill his energies or swallow a gamma bomb, he did it on his own

Someone killing hulk's best friend in order to get a rise out of him is outside help. He wouldn't have gotten that powerful without that happening.

He turned back into a human because he realized what he and Sentry where doing, Hulk came there for revenge, REVENGE. On the puny humans and the ones that shot him into space but he actually found himself saving them from Sentry, as was stated in the comic he had no reason to do that he would have survived Sentries outburst but the rest of the people there wouldn't have.

Mind rewording the second sentence? I don't quite understand what you're saying breh

I have at least 3 solid things to back up my claims, whether you want to deal with it or not, you have 1 thing that is debunked and contradicted and does not hold as much water as the comic itself and the other is your silly analogy that debunks itself.

Nope. My analogy is identical to the situation we are discussing .

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Bruce looks so badass with them there green eyes

Bruce is obviously calm here so perhaps the green eyes is just for art? I don't have a rebuttal for this atm.

But i am certain he didn't just revert to a human in a battle not knowing his opponent would at the same time

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#4 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio
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@01100110: sigh...

Show me it saying hulk was needed to give it power.

The Hulk's abilities are driven by emotion and his mental state, someone having his abilities does not necessatily achieve the same level of strenght unless they have the exact same mental state, current Cho is a blatant example of this. Hell Hulk overpowered his own energies reflected back twice.

She had hulk's powers and every other hero's. Then she proseded to amp herself even more with the gamma radiation from what it looks like.

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If Hulk was able to hold exitar like you said why didnt they just send him and rogue?

Sure it was, it's an obviously flawed design only a moron would come up with, but the second smartest man on Earth designed his forcefield so that someone has to constantly push against it, or do you mean to say the two pieces need to be connected at all times? Because that's something that is easily fixed via scaling, no need to change the design.

The ff would normally operate without someone holding the anchors, since it wasnt meant to get so big it needed to. That isn't flawed.

Did they run out of metal? Because I'm thinking putting those two pieces nearer would solve every problem, it does not take a year to do so.

In regards to your following questions, to me at least it seems this little series was to made sentry a deus ex machina.

The ff fails. Rogue fails. Out of the blue, sentry manages to stop the descent. This is just my interpretation, but i dont really see how i could be wrong about this.

And Hulk gave the field strenght.

Incorrect, all he did was hold anchors

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: My proof is the bio and him reverting back to his human form.

I didn't prove your point, i proved mine.

No. Hulk was tapped out. He then got angry again. Seriously, where is the confusion coming from?

Let's say for instance, clark and doomsday are fighting. doomsday beats clark until he can't move anymore, then DD throws him into a blue star then gets back into the fight. Was clark holding back the whole time or did he just get some juice?

This was a rather straight foward example.

In both situations they were powerless and then gained power through their means of doing so.

Hulk getting angry.

Clark receiving solar energy.

Hulk wasn't holding back, otherwise he wouldn't have turned into a human.

I have 2 things to back my claim compared to your one. Deal with it.

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#6 Edited by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: @atheistknowledge: He held back against everyone except sentry.

Let me ask you a question. How does Hulk's powers work?

I'll tell you. The madder he gets, the more powerful he gets.

What happened seconds the fight with sentry? Did banner just hulk out for no reason?

No. He got mad. Madder than he's ever been( at that time)

Stop being ridiculous.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@01100110: Nope.

Dr Doom said in the scan that you posted but didn't read that he had no time to redesign the forcefield at this size.

Therefore Hulk was only here to fix the problem of the design.

2)

The anchor are part of the original design of the forcefield.

It's only question of the size.

Doom had no time to make a new study of a forcefield at this size so he improvised with the plan of his forcefield's armor.

Heck, that's pretty all that you have to understand from the scan.

The power of the generator is what determine the power of the forcefield.

The forcefield was what briefly stopped Exitar. Not Hulk's power.

Damn, Rogue and the power of all heroes of Eath, including the Hulk, couldn't do squat to Exitar and you expect Hulk to have more power at this point ?

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@01100110: i shall ask the question i never got AGAIN

Show me correlation between holding to anchors in place and lifting exitar.

No bs. No irrelevant questions.

I'll wait.

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#10 Posted by deactivated-5c7d98090c8ef (754 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostravage: Hulk most certainly was not holding back.

I saw a something that said they were both using full power. A bio or writer. I'll go look for it later.

But the very fact the both of them reverted back to human forms supports this.