? He truly was sorry and he apologized for not choosing a better path or way to deal with things.
he wasnt truly sorry,. he just got caught with his pants down about a plan that was obviously evil and going to fail. he didnt apologise for anything except for failing to keep sasuke in line and serving a brutal evil government. he full on admitted his plan was stealing sauskes free will and enslaving him for eternity
To stay in character that everyone sees him as. He couldn't possibly let anyone find flaws in his outer self.
he is exactly like everyone sees him as. a brutal evil maniac. and given obito knew his reasoning the entire time ANYWAY, then itachi is the world's worst spy. his enemy already knew!
Unnecessary? If he did not slaughter the Uchiha clan, a third world war would be triggered you moron,
no it wont. thats completely impossible. uchihas were outnumbered a thousand to one, and their sole plan was a sneak attack in the dead of night. a covert black ops coup like that is either gonna succeed very fast or fail very fast. not devolve into war. if they thought they could take konoha head on, they would have just...done so. furthermore, the other nations wont care. they didnt care when minato died. or when orochimaru invaded konoha.
furhtermore, how exactly do you need to slaughter the uchiha clan just to defuse their coup? just kill the leader if you absolutely have to kill someone. it didnt seem like they were gonna even try to fight once their jig was up (see fugaku immediately surendering and letting himself die when the jig was up).
do you mean that mikoto all by herself can take on konoha and start a world war? madness. read some sun tzu before saying you need to genocide an entire clan just to defuse their uprising lol. and why shouldn't they uprise? usually its right and courageous to stand up to oppressive regimes. if every rebellion in history were that scared of neighboring regimes then NO REBELLION WOULD EVER HAPPEN.
let me guess, you would slaughter all rebels in star wars rather than have a galactic civil war to overthrow the emperor? is that your big plan?
he did for the greater good.
he did it to maintain konoha's boot on the people's throat, and ti maintain its absolute power. he did nothing to even try to reform the regime, who's evilness was the whole reason for the rebellion. greater good would be putting a stop to danzo. greater good would be not torturing sauske to madness.
He used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke to replay that day so that Sasuke would hate him more and gain more more power out of his hatred and desire to kill Itachi.
which is illegal, immoral cruel madness and only succeeded in giving undeserved power to a slowly more insane monster? is that your big plan for all national guard recruits is it? just shove hate and lust for power down their throats because you hope it might make them stronger? ive never heard anything so barbaric. and its not like sasuke would have just stayed weak. was minato tortured as a child? no. but he turned out pretty damn powerful.
Are you stupid? What does the foundation have anything to do with Itachi?
everything. itachi knew about it and did nothing
because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector
itachi is a vicious insane psychopath so how is he a guardian or someone anyone needs? such a dangerous unstable lunatic is not needed by anybody.
There is nothing he could do about it. Danzo is extremely important to the leaf. If he were killed. The balance and hierarchy of power would destabalise the Leaf.
danzo is destabilisng the leaf and is not important to it at all. hes its sworn enemy and a traitor to not just them but all of humanity., as well as a sociopathic torturer and brainwasher of innocent orphans for his illegal personal goon army. which he was crreating to kill hiruzen and take over konoha.
killing him is absolutely paramount to safeguarding innocents. i dont know how you can go as far as defending a guy like danzo lol.
To help him slaughter the uchiha whichwas for the greater good.
but not killing off obito who was a danger to the world? not danzo? not hiruzen who signed off on genocide and thus who knows what else hes capable of?
also how is itachi so sure that obito is going to help him? obito can teleport. he could teleport when the fighting starts and leave itachi to die.only reason he didnt was he saw itachi as a potentially useful chess piece.
Itachi is the definition of having guts and determination, he isn't a spoiled brat.
itchi is the definition of a cowardly, torturing snake who only cares about himself and his own twisted brutal plans to enact insane torture on innocents. true spoiled, brat who betrayed everything he was raised to believe and fight for.
you keep b*tching about something that was addressed in the manga
not successfully and in no way ddi it justify anything. you seem to keep saying "they said it in the manga" as if that ends the debate. what if it doesnt end the debate? what if we should actually think about morality more strongly and critically? and im not bitching actually. you seem way more mad than me.
Everything about framing Itachi was Danzo's doing,
everything about the entire plan was organised and ordered by hiruzen. he has control over these people, right? if he doesn't then they''ve gone rogue and he has to execute them immediately.
What do you want him in that situation, attack the other council members and cause a schism in the village? Y
yes if they have betrayed him and committed high treason by disobeying the supreme leader's orders. i thought the hokage is the supreme leader and he cannot be contradicted? not once has anyone been able to, in the story so far. when people tried to do that to tsunade, she shut them down and told them to shove it.
also i want hiruzen to tell the truth. thats what i want from him. not be a sneaky, slimy, lying coward.
Troll someone else.
how am i trolling by having a strong moral code? it shows how weak your arguments are and how you cannot win against me here if you are resorting to petty insults already
You don’t have a strong moral code. Literally just reading what you’re spewing tells me you don’t. But you can keep lying and pretending you do.
lol now we're onto ad hominem? how don't i have strong morals?
, you’re twisting what the manga and author told us because of some weird obsession with hating on a fictional character to the point where you make about three threads for the same subject.
and you are twisting what the manga showed itachi doing because of a weird obsession of defending brutal atrocities as pure good. how am i hating on itachi when all i said was hes evil? plenty of great characters are evil.
The entire chapter of Obito telling Sasuke why Itachi did what he did.
none of which actually succeeds in justifying many of his atrocities. and is later contradicted anyway by other accounts. you seem to be under the impression that as long as people merely tell you a character is justified, then he is. no nuance. no cause to actually think about it like i did. its very dangerous actually, to just take authority at their word like that. morality works by judging someone based on what they've done. morality is about more than just "hes good because i say so". read this page http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DesignatedHero
ren’t obsessed with hating a fictional character because you don’t like what he did. Pathetic.
of course i don't like what he did. as a villain im meant to hate his atrocities, genius. also if you can't even counter me without insults, you've already lost your insane quest to defend a child-torturer. congrats you just made some of the worst men in history go "yes yes, good idea. defend the child torturer."
Hiruzen not being a villain at all.
if hiruzen is a villian then whos a hero
someone who didn't commit genocide, lie about it and frame a boy for it