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@Billy Batson: I miss Bisley's covers already :(

@TheGoldenOne said:

@Jonny_Anonymous: Hellblazer getting cancelled is a pretty big deal for Vertigo, and Karen has been with Vertigo for a very long time. Also, now that she is executive editor of Vertigo, she should have something to say about the situation.

now? she's been Executive Editor of Vertigo since the position was invented in 1994 (and before that she was informally the executive editor although she mainly just edited some of the core books and brought in a few others to edit the rest although she's the editor responsible for the entire imprint)

I don't think she would be allowed to say anything, writers and artists and such are hired help, editors are actual employees, I don't think the heads at DC want their own people publicly questioning their decisions although I'm sure she'll try to (as politely as possible) say that she's sorry to see the book go

she was the original editor of the series and edited the run of Swamp Thing it spun out of so there's no doubt she's upset about the decision

the only way I see her saying something is if she quits which to be fair, with the way the imprint is going, it wouldn't surprise me if she did

I always find it funny in the Golden Age it was normal for comics nobody remembers now to sell over a million even though the population was much smaller and entertainment was a new industry, but yeah, some stuff in the 90's sold over a million issues but they simultaneously killed, making sure that no comic will ever sell a million again

@Dorian Gray said:

It should probably be noted if you don't like 4chan, you may have a hard time with GiantBomb as well, it is like the bridge between CV and 4chan. You'll find images of the GB crew on 4chan every now and then and it's probably because their 4chan-friendly community that they have successful photoshop threads over there.

Well.. even most of Giantbomb dislikes 4chan. Or at least they pretend to.

Giantbomb is actually pretty descent compared to other gaming sites in terms of trollin and stuff. If you take away the whole creepy staff obsession thing, then you have yourself a pretty classy gaming community.

It should probably be noted if you don't like 4chan, you may have a hard time with GiantBomb as well, it is like the bridge between CV and 4chan. You'll find images of the GB crew on 4chan every now and then and it's probably because their 4chan-friendly community that they have successful photoshop threads over there.

It is as great as you don't realize it is, perhaps you just need to wait a few years and re-read it, I never thought of The Sandman as having to do with being one of the early dark comics though, it was really something different then that, dark comics were much more common when The Sandman was around then they are now and it wasn't the first. However, it is one of the earliest (and still few) examples of a finite comic epic, apart from miniseries or story arcs, you rarely get a complete story in comics, things are always cancelled or rebooted or designed to never end and I think that's more of its contribution. It's a full-length comic novel that never sucked and had a beginning, middle and end.

But, its achievements aren't really why people like it, or at least I've never met those people. The story is magnificent and the character's are some of the richest and most "relate-able" ones you'll find in comics. The concept of The Endless alone is just a huge achievement all its own and the individual's, I can't think of a more perfect group of character's in all the thousands of comics I've read. And the way seemingly unimportant things come back to feed into the story again and it all is connected is fun.

Besides, The Sandman's spin-off is the greatest comic of all time but The Sandman is still up there in the god tier.

Now it's true there's plenty of people outside of comics who love The Sandman and probably don't give other comics a fair chance but that can be said for hundreds of other comics...because people outside of comics will only read a select few, however, those select few were made successes by the people who do know comics and recognized it as one of the best.

Preacher is great, but The Sandman is a completely different kind of comic. The Sandman is about the things that make up life whereas Preacher is about poking fun at the things that hold life back. One's a drama, the other's a comedy, not the same.

Are you allowed to like people like Hank Williams and Johnny Cash but not like country music?

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