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@aryan87:

As I said in another thread as well , I'm withdrawing.

I'll take break from Naruto & Boruto debates .

There is soo much toxicity here and it's not worth it (I'm not talking about you,Naruto/Boruto community in general)

We are both wasting our time and energy on inconsistent plot and writing .

Nobody can prove anything because canon doesn't specify it.

Shippuden was mess ever since war arc and Boruto is a mess from the begining since it follows Shippuden.

I am sorry if I offended you in any way. It wasn't my intention .

Good luck.

@aryan87:

As I said in another thread as well , I'm withdrawing.

I'll take break from Naruto & Boruto debates .

There is soo much toxicity here and it's not worth it (I'm not talking about you,Naruto/Boruto community in general)

We are both wasting our time and energy on inconsistent plot and writing .

Nobody can prove anything because canon doesn't specify it.

Shippuden was mess ever since war arc and Boruto is a mess from the begining since it follows Shippuden.

I am sorry if I offended you in any way. It wasn't my intention .

Good luck.

@aryan87: Something that can see things of an adjacent universe , is inferior to 2 tomoe Sharingan

Scan says intervene in adjacent world . It doesn't mention "seeing".

It only mentions Limbo is impossible to perceive.

Seems like you took it out of context .

Ok ? Scan and it's hard to see something moving so fast at such a small size

All the more reason you need Sharingan to counter it. Something that Madara no longer possesses .

They are different

So no need to assume they give similar powers

You assumed it's chakra would give him six path senjutsu which was compete BS .

And you assumed Hagoromo obtained Six Paths Senjutsu from filler arc.

The only way he could have obtained power is from Kaguya.

There is nothing to suggest that Isshiki doesn't possess it.

Nullfying your chakra during combat = suicide , especially when Madara can kill Isshiki in like 2 hits

Do you have proof that you are unable to nullify your chakra during combat ?

Especially when Kawaki used it by instinct and wasn't aware of it ?

Otsutsuki's on the other hand have experience with it.

@aryan87:

This is how everyone else usually feels when they debunk and counter your point and you still continue to spam scans.

It's not fun is it ?

Although in this case you didn't counter much.

@aryan87: And yes, Madara does have Sharingan

Correct . It evolved into Rinnegan.

As such it doesn't devolve.

That Sasuke scan from the last is nothing but a plot hole.

The reason Naruto didn't use SPSM against Toneri is because SPSM was just a concept then.

The last was made before Shippuden SPSM powerup. That's why we see BSM Naruto in the last.

And Rinnegan is a far superior dojutsu to EMS which is superior to MS which is far superior to 3T which is superior to 2T , why shouldn't Rinnegan have Same capabilities ?

I agree . It's far superior to EMS in some aspects but it doesn't posses Kinetic vision which is crucial to perceive shrinked Isshiki.

I don't know why Rinnegan gains some abilites but looses another . Ask the writers .

Because sarada's Sharingan is not even active in this scan

So you're trolling then.

Sarada needed Sharingan to perceive viruses. She couldn't do it without it.

You should read Manga and re-watch anime again .

Six path sage mode can sense what's happening in a different dimension , does chakra null neg that too ?

It does .

Isshiki's advantages :

@aryan87: Nullify means something getting cancelled or invalidated

Cancelling your own chakra in battle won't work well .

It's stated in the manga that they can do it by instinct.

Fact remains that Naruto wasn't able to sense Jigen . Reason enough ?

Her Sharingan doesn't even seem active

It was. Read the manga and Watch anime.

The reason it wasn't active in that panel was because they were grouped and discussing about counterattack.

Honestly it's evidently clear you're not paying attention. It's because of her sharingan that she was able to perceive that fog.

That's why she stayed in the back and analyzed .

Madara can switch between Rinnegan and Sharingan

Edo Madara can because reanimation eyes aren't real.

Real Rinnegan cannot be reverted back to Sharingan.

Is there any scan that says both ten tails are the same ?

Especially with their distinctively different Dojutsu ?

They are obviously not the same . They are different specimen as stated by Amado.

The only thing I'm stating is that we don't know anything about Boruto 10 tails to assume it's weaker or stronger than Shippuden one.

You are welcome to leave if you think that way

Maybe eventually I will . If I don't see the point in continuing.

Huge is normally considered a relevant amount but I guess you don't want usage of common sense and logic in debating

I actually agree with you.

But here's the thing

Huge doesn't have a number. It can be any number.

It's hard to do the math when you don't know the numbers or scale . That's is why your math about Kaguya chakra expenditure is simply assumption. It's a good assumption I'll give you that . But we have no idea if those numbers are real.

@aryan87:

This was filler. It never happened in official canon .

Thought you should know. This is not the way Hagoromo obtained Six Paths Senjutsu.

Sarada with a two tomoe Sharingan can see something like viruses! VIRUSES!

Animal viruses exhibit extreme variation in size and shape. The smallest animal viruses belong to the families Parvoviridae and Picornaviridae and measure about 20 nm and about 30 nm in diameter, respectively. Viruses of these two families are icosahedrons and contain nucleic acids with limited genetic information. Viruses of the family Poxviridae are about 250 to 400 nm in their longest dimension, and they are neither polygons nor filaments. Poxviruses are

viruses are calculated in nanometers and never saw proof Isshiki can be smaller then nanometers .

Stop repeating pointless facts over and over again.

Naruto wasn't able to see Jigen/Isshiki because he lacked Sharingan.

Only Sasuke could perceive him because of it. Madara doesn't possess Sharingan.

You're stonewalling.

Stop spamming the already countered thrash

Counter it properly and I will.

You're counters are based on real world facts that don't apply to world of anime and assumptions without any real evidence to back them up.

Correction : Edo Madara could swap between Rinnegan and Sharingan.

Alive Madara never demonstrated such thing.

Did you miss the fact that Madara was resurrected without eyes ? Being an Edo allowed him to preform such a feat.

The fact that Sasuke can't revert his Rinnegan is reason enough.

Rinnegan cannot revert back if it's the real Rinnegan.

Until you find better counters this is how it is :

Should I even argue with someone that implied how Madara beats Kaguya ?

@aryan87: Six path sage mode can sense what's happening in a different dimension , does chakra null neg that too ?

Obviously. You can't sense something that has it's signature nullifyed.

Sarada with a two tomoe Sharingan can see something like viruses! VIRUSES!

Animal viruses exhibit extreme variation in size and shape. The smallest animal viruses belong to the families Parvoviridae and Picornaviridae and measure about 20 nm and about 30 nm in diameter, respectively. Viruses of these two families are icosahedrons and contain nucleic acids with limited genetic information. Viruses of the family Poxviridae are about 250 to 400 nm in their longest dimension, and they are neither polygons nor filaments. Poxviruses are

viruses are calculated in nanometers and never saw proof Isshiki can be smaller then nanometers .

You're brining real world facts about viruses into anime world where real life rules don't apply.

Regardless did you miss the fact that Sarada perceived it because of her Sharingan ?

Did you miss the fact Sasuke could perceive Jigen because of his Sharigan ?

Madara only has 2 Rinnegans. No sharingan . No sharingan = bye bye to following Isshiki/Jigen.

Still waiting to see the proof that he can neg solid space with his shrinking .

It's there . You're denying it.

Here are the context you deliberately hid to manipulate anyone reading this debate

• a completely different species of ten tails

• This one have a rinnesharingan , Madara one had a Rinnegan

• This one is a baby compared to the one Madara used

• Jigen is taking a little chakra of it to give himself power , while Madara absorbed a much bigger Jyuubi

I don't think I've hidden anything . I didn't think it was important to use.

You keep using real world physics into world of anime where those rules don't apply .

You don't have proof that smaller 10 tails is in any way weaker than bigger 10 tails. You need statement for that.

You're constantly assuming things without any proof .

Is it stated anywhere than smaller 10 tails is weaker ? If so please send scan .

You're constantly using assumptions to power scale accordingly. Use facts that spill everything out.

What's the point of debating if you'll keep stonewalling and debate based on assumptions ?.

You're assuming chakra expenditure of Kaguya based on words, not numbers. Do I really need to say more ?

@aryan87: You're stonewalling this thread.

You haven't answered any of my questions and you still continue to spam pointless scans and definitions.

Sure man , the nine marking on the back isn't the sign , that's why it literally zooms on his back the moment six path senjutsu is mentioned

Wait wait wait. So let me get this straight.

You assumed six paths senjutsu is connected to the markings based on something you believe is sign ?

Don't you realize that's your assumption/interpretation for which you don't possess evidence ?

Why should I expect logic from guy that claims that Kaguya doesn't possess Six Paths Senjutsu while her son does.

That same son with who she shared her power possesses something that's she doesn't.

If Kaguya doesn't possess Six Paths Senjutsu then where did Hagoromo inherit it ? Please enlighten us.

Sarada with a two tomoe Sharingan can see something like viruses! VIRUSES!

Exactly, key word here is Sharingan.

Sharigan is the only thing that allowed Sasuke to perceive Jigen.

Unfortunetely for you Madara doesn't have one. Therefore he has no way to deal with SukunaHikona to anticipate his movements. He also can't sense him since Otsutsuki's can nullify their chakra signature.

Did you also forget that Sasuke despite having Sharingan still lost sight of Isshiki and got stomped by him ?

Still waiting for answer on how Madara deals with :

Madara only has 4 Limbo's at his disposal. That's not enough to protect him from the assaults I provided.