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Jacen doesn't telekinetically move half-a-million people. All he moves is the group immediately in front of him, shocking everyone. Jacen tells them all to move and they all do. We have no gauge of how many people he moved, but for all we know it could have just been, say, twenty.

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Uh huh. Once again when Chee describes "EVERYthing" else, he is referring to everything else in the Holocron, not specifying criteria for what makes it in, as the contexts of this are questions about the Holocron database and how it is ordered, not what is canon, and what is not. Irrelevant in proving that this source is in the Holocron in the first place. So let's stop bringing up that which is redundant.

Beyond that we have a quote that states Lucasfilm canon is that which is produced by a Lucas company. It was not, it was produced by freelance fans (hint: if that which is produced by a Lucas company = canon, it's implicit that that which is not, is not). That it was published onto a website authorised to use Lucasfilm's products and IP (obviously), does not prove the blog itself to be official source material, or intended to be source material at all. Rather it should be obvious it is not, as the authors have about as much authority to dictate canon as your grandmother.

The blog was published by a source that had official ties with Lucas Licensing. As per Chee, content under that branch is considered within the Holocron and is C-Canon. Also, no, you're wrong:

"Okay, I know that the novels are C-level, and I assume that most of the newer comics are also C-level. Where on the continuity spectrum to the Video games come in?

”...continuity ”C” canon which is pretty much everything else. ” By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case.

Thus, it is apart of C-Canon.

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@beniboybling said:

Sadly no, for reasons stated. :(

Let's see here:

"Lucasfilm canon” refers to anything produced by any of the Lucas companies, whether it be movies, books, games, or internet. ”Movie canon” is only that which you see and hear in the Star Wars films."

"The Holocron is an internal database maintained by Lucas Licensing that tracks all the fictional elements created for the Star Wars universe. The database includes material from the films, books, comics, videogames, trading cards, roleplaying games, websites, toys, cartoons, and just about every officially sanctioned fictional element of the Star Wars universe. The database does indeed have a canon field. Anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered ”G” canon. Next we have what we call continuity ”C” canon which is pretty much everything else... By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case... There is secondary ”S” continuity canon which we use for some older published materials and things that may or may not fit just right. But, if it is referenced in something else it becomes ”C”. Similarly, any ”C” canon item that makes it into the films can become ”G” canon. Lastly there is non-continuity ”N” which we rarely use except in the case of a blatant contradiction or for things that have been cut... Understand, that the Holocron's primary purpose is to keep track of Star Wars continuity for Lucas Licensing, and to some degree Lucas Online. To my knowledge, it is only rarely used for production purposes."

And then the "web supplement," as you put it:

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Based off the two quotes provided, especially that which is underlined, it's not a stretch at all to rule this content as canonical. In fact, I'd need a quote from you deeming it non-canonical, since Chee's comments on what C-Canon consists of includes "roleplaying games" and "websites" under LucasFilm, Lucas Licensing, and Lucas Online, which this fits under. You're ultimately trying to make a distinction between what this falls under and other sources, whereas none exists. The terms "websites" and "roleplaying games" are intentionally broad enough for this to fit under it. So unless your next response is going to be some quote from Leland Chee confirming this to not fit under such (which a member has already tried and, in return, Chee suggested it fit alongside all the other content within the Legends continuity), I'm going to say it blatantly does, so don't bother wasting my time any more.

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That's referring specifically to the contents of the Holocron, not all Star Wars related content in general. So no, no reason to read the source as canon.

Yes, and as per what is considered within the Holocron, this source qualifies.

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It's a web supplement, not from the game proper so no, not canon.

If you refer to the second quote I posted, everything is considered canonical, so even your baseless nitpicking that it is a web supplement and not a game does not change the facts.

The website looks like a blog, akin to some of the entries found on SW.com. Not something that came along with the miniature figures. So I don't trust it.

According to the following quote, contradictions are met by a case-by-case basis:

As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case.

Source: Leland Chee (Keeper of the Holocron)

So the fact that the starwars.com blogs are non-canonical doesn't mean these aren't.

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It doesn't take much reaching to realize Wizards of the Coast is absolute bullcrap kek

It'd take dismissing an official C-Canon source has non-canon. Not necessarily hard to due as I remarked in my blog, but dismissing these quotes but fully embracing others would be hypocritical.