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And btw he oneshotted Sentry and KO'd King Hyperion. Those feats put him at planet level. Also an Avengers team with Unworthy Thor on it was scared to fight him

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#7  Edited By DarkRaiden

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@darkraiden: Could have fooled me with the way you exaggerate Thor's capabilities. I'll take you at your word though but you still commit your usual downfall of false advertising in every conceivable way. Like you do below. So I can't see how you're not dictated by feats and logic, not when you wrote a series of books just so you could give them unbeatable battle forum feats and badass second person terminology for some reason.

1. Here's the thing about both Hulk and Thor's high end feats, but I'll only be addressing Thor's for the sake of argument. If hurting Galactus, Odin, Celestial armour, shaking reality & multiverse was the actual consistent norm for Hulk, how does Thor fail to harm Thanos with a direct blow to his neck and proceed to get casually swatted by Thanos?

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If what you cited was the norm for Thor, Thanos wouldn't be a problem, yet he is clearly Thor's superior in every way. Unsurprisingly most of your evidence has context to them. First up is Galactus. I'll borrow an argument @ghostravage who cited two later examples where Thor attacks Galactus and does no harm.

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First two are a presumably healthy Galactus taken from some point in time due to the timeline ruptures/fractures that were taking place during this story. Thor bullrushes into Galactus but does no visible damage and is promptly one shotted in a following page. Second is a poisoned and weakened Galactus who Thor attempts to knock down yet Galactus is still standing and continues to blast Thor. As for Odin, at most Odin let out a groan or a grunt from being hit, he took no visible damage from Thor on any panel.

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There's also blatant context in Thor busting Celestial armour as people such as yourself overlook how Thor was wearing his Belt of Strength which doubled his power and is no longer standard gear for Thor.

So that's multiple contextual discrepancies with your highballing arguments, the others are inconsistent outliers that other powerhouses like Superman and Hulk have replicated.

2. Yet he was also KOed by anti air artillery weapons, a Wundagrian energy drill designed to bore through solid rock and building busting attacks during this time period. The Thing has also tanked Celestial blasts and WWH one shotted him easily. You cannot judge Thor solely by his high hanging fruit because the same logic can be applied to the low hanging fruit too. Thor does not have consistent durability in either area.

1. I'm pretty confused. We both acknowledged those were high end feats right? So why discuss if they're valid. We know they're not. No discussion to be had.

2. Yeah and Hulk has been beaten by a Snake before and OHKO'd by Thing. Even WWHulk tied with Sentry while Thor had the advantage against him (Not DSS, just Sentry).

I'm not judging anyone by just high end. On average, Thor is above Hulk and WW. Which is why I said what I said.

P.S. I'm not M.A.N.

If I did write those books, it was because I had an idea/story to tell. Not for a battle forum. They're not unbeatable in any way and 2nd Person POV was chosen for a reason (given on the description of said books).

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@darkraiden: loki can leap long distances? When?

His first scene in Avengers. Easily enough to dodge a missile explosion.

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@darkraiden: Tony fights h2h in an enclosed environment where he wanted to hurt Bucky, and was trying to prevent his escape.

When did Hawkeye ever bust a tank or bunker? The most he did was smoke a bunker iirc at the beginning of AoU, the same bunkers Tony was effortlessly 1 shotting drive by style (and he actually blew it up, rather than smoking it).

Tony has scans that should prevent any illusions working. Kurse, the asgardians, Odin, and Thor have nothing unique about their power sets to indicate they should be able to see through Loki's illusions; Tony's scans and tech wont fall for it, and his aoe rivals Thor's.

You got me on the BiFrost feat though. While i think people over wank it, it was an impressive explosion. Apart from that he has nothing to defend against repulsor beams and repetitive tank busting missiles.

In AoU. When he 'smoked it', it stopped working. There's not much of a difference between blowing up and smoking it tbh. Tony's scans aren't more advanced than Shield's and Loki fooled those. Also Heimdall's special abilities are literally to see any and everything. Loki still fools his sight.

Thor's AoE is so far above Tony's it's not really comparable. And he still had to lay Mjolnir on Loki's chest.

Overall Loki will just be invisible to Iron Man and kill him while he can't see him.

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1, 2, and 9 easily

How Rorschach even clean?

Rorschach sucks and literally has done nothing notable aside getting beaten by cops and getting stomped by Ozymandias.

In the movie he was pretty impressive. He stomped criminals, was beating the cops until he got dumb, and the fact that he even took Ozymandias' hits and fought with him, is pretty impressive IMO

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@alphaq said:
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I know the kids suck and will fold in an actual fight, but theoretically, couldn't they all just launch spells at the same time and Voldemort wouldn't be able to block them all?

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In the movies, during his fight against Dumbledore he created a shield that protected him from a wave of fire as it washed over him, which would be required to be omni-directional due to the heat proceeding and following the wave itself, as it washed over him.

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Ah...it makes sense for one so feared to have that. I was wondering why they didn't just ambush him with various grunts. This shows why.

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