CSG_CL

About time.

I know Wonder Woman is often described to be ancient but I just finished reading Wonder Woman: Gods and Mortals, her Post-Crisis origin story. In this story, Diana was molded from clay 3,000 years after the Amazons were first created and the Amazons were created around the time of Greek civilisation, she only received her costume and bracelets after the news that Ares was planning to lead the world into war, this was shortly before she met Steve Trevor and Hippolyta even said to Diana "you are but a child" when she was initially reluctant to let Diana become the champion to fight Ares. Are there any scans that contradict

@csg_cl: Sorry that I haven’t gotten back to you. Been busy. Will address your points sooner or later.

You know, I entirely forgot this was coming out. But having read it now I can see I didn'r miss out on anything other than a lot of jabbering and a stupid-plot fight.

Seriously, Diana fighting Lashina and Harriet for information rather than using her lasso is to put it mildly: idiotic. Diana has that Lasso so she doesn't have to go the Batman route and beat people into the next week. Plus the book isn't helped by again dedicating several more pages to that turd Jason. And with JLO lineup having been revealed, we already know Darkseid is going to get the Zeus beaten back out of him, so right now this story is just treading water... and thats really sad when WW vs Darkseid should be exciting, James Robinson has just managed to make it unbelievably boring.

@csg_cl: Yes and No. It is 100% within their power range as not only does she do it in the comics but it is stated. Sage could easily amplify her ability using the Cockuus and Cerebro as her powers are psonic in nature. Also she is a telepth. Elixir was the one that helped heal M-Pox and has the ability to resurrect the dead. Meaning he could resurrect a few of the mutants that died on Genosha. He was even able to affect all the dead on Geneosha for a split second at the same time. Like for example:

If Exlir only resurrects 10 mutants a week on Geneosha, which wouldn't drain him at all, then by the end of the year he would have resurrected about 480 mutants.

If Sage with the help of Cerebro and the Cuckoos amplify her power to locate people across the world with a latent X gene as one of her powers is to sense the X-gene in people while another is to be able to jumpstart mutants powers and evolve them. Of course no forcing anyone to activate their gene but have leaders talk to potential mutants about activating their X gene and giving them to choice to accept or decline. If a week they ask about 80 people and only 1/4 accepts then by the end of the year they could easily have a new 240 mutants. Over the course of 10 years they could have easily brought back 4,800 mutants and gained 2,400 mutants. This is just an example of a possible way it could be done logically.

Couldn't Sage and Elixir use their powers to restore the mutant population? Sage's ability allows her to see someone's genetic code and then activate their powers. Exlir ability is similar in the sense it allows him to manipulate people on a biological level it even allows him to resurrect and cure mutants from things like the M-Pox. I don't understand why they relied so much on Hope and the Phoenix when they have mutants who can achieve the same results without the destruction the Phoenix "MIGHT" bring.

I mean I get editorial doesn't want a huge mutant population which is why House of M even happened but I think they need to up the number of mutants more. Like maybe set a max of 50,000 mutants and a min of like 10,000 mutants. This would be like what .0025% of the population of Earth 616 if Earth 616 had 2 Billion residents. If earth 616 had 8 billion residents I would 200,000 mutants which would be .0025% of the population which is way less than 1%. So 99.99% of the world would still be non mutants. Even then you clearly don't have to focus on every mutant. So there should never be an issue of their being to many.

By natural progression, I sort of mean that 'straight white male' has been so ingrained with the superhero culture that it's part and parcel with the superhero identity. Most of it takes place in America, and really can be seen as an aspect of America solving or creating problems. Everything from the Avengers, Justice League, even stuff like the Incredibles, Watchmen, and the low budget stuff aimed at kids largely play off a caucasian America.

Now obviously, superhero comics can be diverse in normalcy to great effect, as Wonder Woman and Black Panther have demonstrated. I suppose by natural progression, we've moved from cheesy thought boxes to cinematic heroes. Maybe Black Panther and Wonder Woman are highly successful outliers in terms of diversity, but when it matters it's all cool when popularity and box office performance send a good message.

But at least we can agree on something. Namely, that good writing and diversity are good when done well. And sweeping overhauls of iconic characters is an unlikable proposition. Perhaps over-diversification is the natural progression of the comics subculture. Perhaps over-diversification works for movies, but not for comics.

I suppose what I'm saying is that the greater world expects straight and narrow white superheroes like Superman, Batman, Captain America and others, though now that I think about it, I suspect I've compared relatively niche comics to movies made for a far broader audience.