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Bro said ignoring context.... straight embarrassment for logic by Yu. Per usual.

• No one has really beat him in a 1v1 - What I actually said

no one has REALLY beat him. A plot device character that solo'd the JLA isn't relevant to Black Adam/Shazam. But you're "ignore context" guy .

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He never said it was maximum POWER. He said they had to push to maximum if they wanted to test her. Never said that was his maximum power.

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Got beat so bad you got Amnesia, eh?? No worries, all CV laughed and i'll never forget your lil hiatus. If you want to get smacked around some more, just reply. I enjoy lolstomping your lack of reading comp.

• "No one" cares that Captain Atom got beat by Someone who literally teambusted Superman + the entire JLA? You don't speak for anyone who uses logic there.

• Captain Atom testing Powergirl and said they had to push her = A fight? When Capatin Atom constantly no-sells her trying to KO her without fighting? Posting a non-fight as proof is crazy LOL

I almost got you banned last time on top of debunking you just a month ago. Best go back into obscurity with such mid posts buddy.

@hatsonmelo said:

.There isn't really anyone that Captain Atom has hit with energy that didn't go down

no one has really beat him in a 1v1.

Trash takes per usual. The Context?

• What she did to:

• The dude who did this to Superman + the entire JLA

Powergirl vs Captain Atom:

• Couldn't even KO him while not holding back at all (Meanwhile he said he just wanted her to snap out of the mind control)

Again with Powergirl unleashing barrages of punches "out for Blood" and still Captain Atom wasn't KO'd nor fighting back

That last scan he's literally testing her. Anything else you want me to debunk?

LOL, hey man!! Always makes me smile and SMH when i see a comment from you. I'd disagree here, Captain Atom has feats Captain Marvel and Shazam couldn't dream of. Another one I just remembered:

Helped Absorbed a forming UNIVERSE from Zero Hour Parallax:

• Helped restart the multiverse with others. This energy actually went into the Multiverse coming back:

Thanks my friend!! You all do make things pretty awesome~~ Hope you've been having the best days as well broski

I agree! Most times Orion is even slightly above Superman, but like you said they are all around the same level.

LOLOL, they are true words!! And lol, I don't say it often but when you get into the debate it gets ALOT tougher lol. I concede points alot, I think you're just being humble lol. Basically a baby UF47

I can definitely see your point (especially on the Monarch taking on MULTIPLE Atoms). I'd agree Captain Atom isn't consistent.... to Superman, But Shazam doesn't have the fights or strength/durability feats that Supes does do actually be his equal. Shazam's feats and fights are more along the lines of W.W. than Superman and tbh I'd pick W.W. feats over him. Atom definitely needs better writers, but look at Captain Atom's feats I listed... Can Shazam do any of that? What Can Shazam do, that Atom couldn't replicate? Captain Atom took Powergirl (twice) and Maxima with no damage. Can Shazam even beat Supergirl by feats?

His energy manipulation is nuke level consistently as shown below, and high ends he has like 5 universal feats:

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In damage dealing department?... I can't say there are too many people Captain Atom can't take down.There isn't really anyone that Captain Atom has hit with energy that didn't go down, Mister Miracle and Ultraa are both bricks around Superman level and he beat them both. Ignoring his MUCH higher ends no one has really beat him in a 1v1. Black Adam and Shazam are also Magic based, and guess who is magic resistant? Resisting Magic on the order of Mordru, if anything Shazam and Black Adam are nerfed fight Captain atom:

Just consider these things my friend. What do you think when considering this fight by feats?

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Rules:

• Fight till KO
• Full power & direct scaling allowed
• Bloodlusted

Feats:

Keeper

• Stole all the power from the Timeless Machine, this power was capable of removing the Earth from every era of the timeline and isolating all those Earths at the Entropic end of the Universe. Basically rewriting the Universe across all time to not include Earth or it's Hero/Villain proned influence on the rest of the verse:

• The rewriting of the Universal timeline is further confirmed here, it covers all of the past and future exploits of Earth and it's influences:

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Energy needed to alter the entirety of a timeline and move the worlds was done with 5 Sources of energy at their peak. The Speedforce itself, The Gods of Olympus, the Green Lanterns power battery, the Raw Magic of Atlantis, and the Meta-human powers that came from all over space to Earth in the 31 century. All this power was tapped into just as it was at its pinnacle, Keeper ursurped it fully for herself:

• Keeper was using so much of these primal forces that Flash, the Gods, the Green Lanterns all reported that they felt her drain on their power Source. She had their power sources at the peak of their powers and while the energy was actually being used to alter an entire timeline. This was no small amount of energy:

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She is older than the current Multiverse but remembers every Crisis before including COIE

Harbinger feats incoming! (My old post on her feats got deleted with my old info)

As long as you're willing to be objective, that's all i need to hear. i'd say you're slightly off with Captain Atom's durability, at least in relation to Shazam/Black Adam. Check it out:

• Just posted that has Captain Atom took punches from a bloodlusted/mind controlled Power Girl, not once but twice. Mary Marvel being a lowfeat is pretty straightforward

Captain atom has taken nukes and has a respect thread full of no-selling missiles of various origins, one sidewinder i'm not even sure i've seen is ok.

• Do i need to bring up Shazam being burned by Gasoline fire? Is that not an outstanding lowfeat? I can keep going.

Also, Guy Gardner as Warrior was stated to be as strong as doomsday. "Maybe stronger" -Superman

Captain Atom has fought Maxima off without getting KO'd, nearly beat Ultraa to death. Glass jaws can't do that, his durability record is lowkey impressive, and his output? Far beyond Shazam or Black Adam.

Tbh, nothing broski! *Daps and hugs* Just my friends and my girl, all that been mattering.

You're 200% right on Orion's planet to beyond feats being Astro harness feats. But keep in mind: Orion has a natural amp that let's him fight on a level beyond the Astro harness's power, it's called Source of the Beast. In base, Orion still is consistently shown to stalemate or even beat Superman.

I appreciate you, as always, keeping it unbiased and 100%. You're legit one of the best debaters on the site and most times when you give a why (Despero vs Xemu) or you be in a thread I just fall back. Always turns out you got a reason that will make me question my own guy lol.

For a breakdown on Captain Atom:He isn't a physical guy, he just has Physical durability to hang with the best until his energy blast or hax Knocks them out. His best Durability include:

Durability:

• Firestorm punched him.. and hurt his own hand
• Powergirl released barrage after barrage against Atom ( She was bloodlusted against Supes and was Mind controlled by Manchester), Captain Atom literally didn't fight back after after all those blitzes had 0 lasting damage or even marks. Asked her if she was ok and off they went to Find Manchester like nothing
• Punches from Someone who has Mister Majestic not only failed to put Captain Atom down, but Captain Atom ended up winning the fight.
• Powergirl possessed by Starro still fails to KO him
• Tanked a nuke
• Tanked being close to the Sun
• Survived a blast that destroyed an Earth busting Meteor
• Fought Monarch head to head, equally. Survived bolts that rend particles

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His blasts power

• Captain Atom 1 Shots Shadowstorm
• Captain Atom beat Hal Jordan. Wasn't that close.
• Mister Majestic blasted into unconsciousness
• Could have killed Ultraa (Someone who has matched Maxima)
• 1 Shot Lightray
• 1 Shot Mirabi, who was superior to Mordru
• Drained the universe to Manhandle Nekron easily.
• I'm sure you know of Atom creating and destroying universes, and Atom sealing universe destroying holes from Extant

What's up broski~~

How do you come to this conclusion? Both on team 2 have universal feats and Planet+ feats (Multiple) that tbh, neither of the Shazams have. How do you see either Shazam or Black Adam doing as good as Orion or CA?

Hey, Good post man~

Atom also no-sold a bloodlusted Powergirl, while not even trying to defend himself. Powergirl >> Mary Marvel

Are you familiar with these Captain Atom feats?

• Fought and beat Nekron
• KO'd Mister Majestic
• Knocked the Firestorm Matrix out of Firestorm. Knocked his power source out...like wtf.