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@justsomerandomkid: I'd say 3. I'll get a reply up as soon as I can. Been kinda busy recently.

As you can see in this episode of AppleLeague #543, Apple proved itself immune to all fire attacks. This is a mismatch.

@justsomerandomkid: Your move, partner.

Everyone knows who Superman is. I don't see much of a point in giving you an introduction to a character you're already familiar with, so let's hop right into the debate!

Strength:

Interesting. I honestly thought you would concede this point, but if you want to fight it: I might as well go all out. Now, as impressive as your scans might appear, they don't hold a candle to what Kal El can do.

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Here's Clark bench pressing the weight of the earth. Very impressive; one of the best strength feats in comics, actually. But he didn't just bench the weight of the world. Superman did that for five days and only produced a single drop of sweat. Also keep in mind that he was underground for that entire period, meaning that he wasn't absorbing sunlight. Which means a WEAKENED Superman is able to EFFORTLESSLY lift the weight of our planet for FIVE. DAYS. There is no argument for Jin here. Lifting his pole is child's play in comparison. Unless this First Prince character is comparable to the Incredible Hulk, Jin is getting destroyed if Kal gets his hands on him. One bear hug and its good night for Mori.

Striking Power:

Now, strength is nothing without striking power. And let me tell you, Superman can hit. That first set of scans is quite impressive. However, I'd like to see where this one angel is able to tank 567 nukes. I'd also like to know the context behind this situation. If its as clean as you present it, Yeoui is a powerful weapon indeed. Planet level striking power is nothing new to Superman; in fact, it will take more than that to put down Superman. But we'll move on to durability later. With your final scan, I'm a bit confused. You haven't shown me why the First Prince is impressive but you expect me to think he is. I'll need to see some feats from him to know what kind of power scaling we're dealing with there.

Here's a few of Superman's own striking feats:

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In the first scan from Superman Unbound, Superman had just gotten back to the fortress after a battle with Wraith, a foe stated to be his physical superior. Yet, he manages to casually destroy a massive chunk of ice and send General Lane's war machines tumbling into the water. Compare the size of the machines to the size of Superman, then compare the machines to the ice Kal El broke off without any real effort shown. These next two scans are from the Forever Evil storyline. Here we see Superman (who has a piece of kryptonite stuck in his head) smash a huge chunk of earth up with one strike. He was definitely weakened here, to the point where he could barely stand.

But these are just the tip of the iceberg. Have you seen what a full powered Superman can do?

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Here we see an evil cyborg version of Superman beating down on Kara Zor El. The previous scan shows glimpses of the fight and from what is seen, it's stomping her into oblivion. Yet here comes Clark, dragging the thing off to the Arctic and smashing it to pieces. The machine is barely able to react; whereas it was having an easy time fighting Supergirl, who's got some impressive feats of her own:

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The scans mostly speak for themselves. Supergirl is able to go toe to toe with Wonder Woman and cause her to bleed with a single punch, while in the second set she is able to keep up with Flash and tag him. and yet, this cyborg beat her without much fuss. Then Kal comes around and does the same to it. See what I'm getting at here?

Durability:

Planet level durability. Once again, I'm impressed. But I have to ask...Why is it that two mostly human characters are so large next to those two planets? Are they that big, or are the planets that small? And what in those scans suggests the planets are moving faster than the speed of light? And in the scan before that, is the flash the planet exploding and are the scans out of order? Because the way they appear, they don't show what happened after the planet went kaboom. I'm assuming they're just out of order but I'd like clarification. But I'm fairly sure that Superman can match, or even overcome, such sheer invulnerability.

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Here we see Superman taking on a monster that dwarfs Metropolis's skyline. It hits him from the east coast all the way to Ireland, and all he has to show for it is saying ow twice. Not a drop of blood on him.

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H'el, who was able to overpower all three Kryptonians (Supergirl, Superboy and Superman) fairly easily hits Kal hard enough to send him flying into space, where he slams into DC's equivalent to the Watcher. Not even an ow; he's just a bit confused. Again, no blood drawn.

Speed:

Blitzing someone who can react to light is nice, but its almost mandatory at this level. Superman has shown that he can react to things FAR faster than the speed of light, as well as move at massively faster than light speeds.

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He is the first person to ever tag the Flash. Why is hitting Flash impressive?

According to wikipedia, in 1 femtosecond, a ray of light travels only 0.3 micrometre, which is the unit of length used to measure cells and bacteria. Yes. You read that right. Flash can react to things hitting him in the time it takes light to travel less than the length of a bacteria. And yet, Superman tagged him.

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Superman uses his speed to blitz Orion, the son of Darkseid. The last panel shows just how strong Orion is, given he's effortlessly picking up an aircraft carrier over his head.

Abilities:

I'll be focusing mostly on Heat vision and Frost breath in this section. Both are area of effect attacks, so they'll be quite useful against potential clone spam. Although I have to wonder, how often does Jin use that move? Anywhere. He's here Supes will deal with that particular problem:

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Here we see Kent freeze a bunch of alien construction robots (don't..don't ask) as well as a huge chunk of destroyed city. He also throws the thing into space. You can see just how large of an area his breath effected in the second panel.

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The many uses of heat vision! He lobotomized Parasite, can blink to rapid fire the beams, and is able to trick shot the beams off the Planet's globe to hit his intended target. But how hot is it, you ask?

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(They went backwards, for some reason. Stupid comicvine!)

He severely damages Omac with one blast. Omac was able to take on a team of super heroes consisting of Guy Gardener, Blue Beetle and Booster Gold (who are all Herald tier, by the way) and do quite well for himself. Yet, one blast from Superman's heat vision and he's look at his face. The following scans are out of order, but Supes is able to boil the ocean to defeat an oncoming Atlantean army. The next scan showcases Superman burning a hole through two drones who were previously causing him and Martian Manhunter to physically exert themselves fighting them. Kal melts an aircraft carrier on top of Orion. Superman nearly obliterates Doomsday using his heat vision. And if all else fails? He has quite a large spread. Oh, and heat travels at light speed, so that makes it all even more difficult for Jin to deal with.

Why Superman Wins:

He's massively faster than Jin and can dodge his every attack, while matching him in pretty much every other category. His punches will eventually break through Mori's durability. If things are starting to look bleak, Kal El can use his immense strength advantage to BFR Jin into the sun, where Superman will be even MORE powerful. He can also rely on his heat vision and ice breath to slow Jin down as well as keep his hax in check.

@justsomerandomkid: I'd like you to, so I know what I'm up against.

@justsomerandomkid how's it look?

Rules:

Superman is in his standard New 52 incarnation.

Jin Mori is from the God of High School.

Random Encounter/No Knowledge

Both combatants are in character but determined to win.

Victory can only be achieved through knock out or death.

Characters will start 200 meters apart.

Battle starts in Times Square.

EDITED: Jin wil not have access to his Gourd.

To the Voters:

If you want to be tagged, just ask!

Please give a reason for your vote; even just a sentence is appreciated. This is our first CaV, so pointers would be great.

Be respectful to everyone involved. I've seen way too many of these devolve into nothing more than shouting matches, and I'd like my first time to be enjoyable. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I'd give it to Crossbones. Drax never did anything significant to suggest he could hang with Cap.