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@higherthenever: He's altering timelines without interfering in human affairs at first but at the end of the comic he destroyed everything and rebuilt it. Attack potency is useless, at least against m...
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@boutatakeanl: It was in Doomsday Clock.After he retcon the whole map as none of these universes existed. You should read the comic to get a better understanding of the characters mention overall not ...
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@boutatakeanl: fair enough. I feel the same towards comics in general now a days. Get bored easily. I feel like writers in general fight on what to write cause everytime there is a new era of comics t...
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@boutatakeanl: to be fair, Manhattan comes from the world of watchmen which is infinitely inferior to DC cosmology yet Manhattan was still able to affect it on a massive scale. While I do agree with y...
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Looks like everyone saying lucifer don’t really have an argument. Dr.manhattan stomps
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Manhattan>Presence>elaine>michael>spectre. Wanked Lucifer dies
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@vidi15king: You lost because you go off topic, your argument is zero, and you make others feel uncomfortable. Your post pretty much backfired. You tried so hard to make the person you were debating t...
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@vidi15king: you know why you lost the argument right?
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@living_beyonder: .. clearly
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Arguing 2 diff Lucifer’s based purely on visuals is poor argument. Here’s why,> Lucifer is a shapeshifter> presence, Lucifer, Michael, and Dream all have had their appearance altered. Several ti...
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@britain: So what happen to the old presence? Did he die or something. How is Elaine the new presence?? She is michaels daughter… but she is now the father of Michael? Something not right here.
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presence has a couple losses on his record and his anti-feats are significant enough for me to say he can lose to someone like Manhattan. And this is coming from someone collecting both vertigo and dc...
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Titans win
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