@rbt: My only issue is how inconsistent everyone’s showings are. We have speedsters who get countered by people without super speed and then we see them with FTL speed feats. Supergirl and other characters consistently get tagged or inured by far weaker opponents than their high showings sprinkled throughout the shows. I would honestly say that 80% the time Supegirl isn’t that impressive, only being really effective on crossovers or big events.
That being said:
If we use high showings then definitely Supergirl.
If we use low or just average showings then I would say Superman.
that happens in every comic book, too. i think it's stupid also. however, the only choice would be having comic books that are 4 panels long or speedsters just fighting high tier characters.
There is no way that you can say barry is faster than Superman. You have no idea how fast superman is. We know that he is massively hypersonic. We also know that the cw writters are idiots because according to them he can die if he exceeds mach 7.
@mister_surreal: cw flash doesn’t break the speed of light. The reason he doesn’t blitz zod is because he dies really want to fight him. He wants to talk sense to him. He also doesn’t blitz zod due to the same reason barry gets hit by slower characters every week. There would be no story. Superman doesn’t just fly in a straight line. He avoids buildings, makes sharp turns, and stops on a dime. Combat speed and travel speed are the same fior characters who move on their own power because get this...they move under their own power. You know good and well why Superman doesn’t just operate at that level alll the time. No speedster does because their stories will be over in 4 panels. Superman can achieve the same speed running that he does flying. I don’t know where you get your information from. He just doesn’t run because flying is easier. He can just fly over buildings and obstacles instead of going around them.
@mister_surreal: the comic book superman runs as fast as he flies. That’s why he has all those stupid races with the flash. Superman’s combat and travel speed are the same since he travels under his own power. Saying it’s different is like someone telling you that you can run faster than you can react. Superman doesn’t run as fast on a planet because he will destroy the atmosphere. That’s why he only goes faster than light in space.
I guess am just going to have to go with it I guess. Legends of tomorrow basically said that if death caught thawne that would eliminate every thawne from history altogether. Now he is back like nothing happened. I finally got over the episode where barry gave up his speed for no reason. I got over the first time that thawne came back but this is getting silly. It’s bad enough that they are facing a villain that they could have beaten in the first few episodes.
Pulling inconsistencies is a poor argument, I could say that superman's heat vision can't even bust a cop car. It clearly can. To avoid a "who can find the most inconsistencies" battle lets just assume everyone is fighting at peak abilities.
you have no idea what you are talking about and if you are going to make a comment try bothering to read the post that you are responding to.