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@chiq: Right she’s consistently taking on Hell lords and Odin level beings. I’m sure she never gets harmed or touched by anything lesser in power than galaxy busters. I’m also sure that her morals and “holding back” inhibits her so much that she’s never struggled to put down anyone below Mephisto’s tier. I’ll take your word for it.

I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that she has powers and feats that can counter and put down Thor. Her personal rouges gallery is primarily made of Hell Lords and demons. Why would Thor be out of her league?

Does Zatanna or Kyle Rayner lose to Deathstroke on these forums?

Why do most people think telepathy can put down Thor (even if he has resistance feats) but an anti magic sword, magic, demon army, hax and a track record of beating (not just hurting) opponents more powerful than Thor can't?

if the Soul Sword can put down Archenemy why can't it put down Thor?

If Limbo can rip up the Dark Dimension why can't it rip up Thor?

if she can rip open Juggernaut and crush the crimson gem, why can't she do that to Thor as well?

Why can't she hide from Thor is she's hidden from opponents with cosmic senses?

Why can't she teledismember Thor is she can do it to Magus?

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@noone1996 said:

The Magik wank is beyond annoying. I’m sure if anybody actually took the time to look into her obscure and bad comics we’d find tons of inconsistent or mid tier showings instead of the Skyfather busting level she’s portrayed as.

There's regular Magik holding back. In an x-men team book there's normal Magik who's just in the background waving her sword forgetting to use her powers and there's Magik when the stories are focused on her turns into a sorcerer supreme/hell Lord with plot device powers unleashed. Same thing happens with Thor when he is fighting along side Cap, the black widow and Iron-man.

Do we low-ball both characters? In battle forums, do I seriously show scans of Thor needing other Avengers to battle more earth bound opponents when he has feats taking on far more powerful opponents by himself?

At their core Thor is the God of Thunder and Magik is the Ruler/Hell Lord of Limbo. Yes I can show Magik jobbing to low x-men villain and I can show Thor jobbing to Logan. I'd like to see some high tiers (without amps or plot) beating the level of opponents that Magik has beaten.

Mid-tiers don't defeat Hell Lords, they don't defeat Doc Strange, or dimension eating monsters one on one either. They also don't unleash hell on earth or absorb dimensions into themselves or warp the universe.

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Magik is almost always holding back. It's a different form. Here It's explained. She's not even human. The more power she uses the bigger chances she turns into a demon.

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@necrogod: Magik has beaten powerhouses way above Thor. She's tanked Dormammu attacks, World Eaters attacks, Sym's ( a demon who can break adamantium) punches etc...

She has evaded Thor's attacks ( hammer throw and AOE). She has one of the best and most consistent combat teleporation feats in Marvel. She has magical shields.

Her TK ragdolled Juggernaut and she one-shot him.

Thor can't deal with her hax. She can cloak, turn intangible, teleport attacks inside opponents, teleport limbs off. Teleport Thor's head into the ground, etc..

Comparing Nightcraweler's teleporation to Magik is a poor comparison. Magik has feats of attacking opponents without being on the same battle field. She can teleport attacks from different dimensions.

Magik's Soul Sword can destroy skyfathers, it can kill Thor.

She has so many ways to put Thor down.

Magik is basically a reality warper in Limbo.

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Morals off means Magik is Darkchilde. Danger and Hope with all their powers added are more then enough to to stomp on that duo. Add Colossus as Juggernaut plus Magneto?

6 stomps them even without TP too much hax (cloaking, illusions, soul sword, teledismemberment, magic, power mimicry, demons, internal attacks, etc...) Magik and Hope can take them on one on one.

7 is a a bigger stomp

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Just going by the respect thread i saw, seems like Z is more impressive. Could be wrong though...

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@chiq: Even when morals off and going full force, Warlock was a gat to his father, Magus. He was never going to be as strong as him, so it's unfair to put him at that level.

I think it's because he refuses to just keep absorbing living beings.

  • here it's stated your average technarch plunder galaxies feeding on lifeglow
  • He says he won't rob one life form to save another
  • He says if he has to save the kree civilization he would need to consume vast amounts of life glow. Which is something he won't do.

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Warlock can just infect them with the transmode virus and absorb them. Morals off Warlock should be like that adult technarch stomping on Nova Prime. He should just be like his dad the star ripping Magus. He was shapeshifting and going at it with Impossible man.

Danger can reform form almost any damage. Polaris ripper her apart, she just reformed turned into Magneto and stomped on x-factor.

Don't know why they aren't stomping.

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@princess_fiona: magik's sword has affected Vision, all of the Inhumans, Sentinels, Magneto, cosmic slaughter lords, Legion etc.. it will affect Betsy

Round 1. Besty

Round 2. Magik ports her into space or limbo or depowers her.

Don't think people are aware to how many powers a blood lusted Magik has displayed. She's even copied powers

@cruelrain: it's not just one scan though.Xavier, Shadow king and emma couldn't affect her.