@brucerogers: I get that but with him being under the influence of false memories, it doesn't really seem like he's responsible for this. He isn't really crossing the line if he is effectively a different person with a different ideology and moral code.
What exactly is the issue here? Cap has killed people before and so have other heroes. He killed people during the war. MCU Cap kills people all the time lol.
@mark_stephen: Your points are well taken. My issue with all of this is that Marvel is in a position where they can't win. If they keep things he same then they get called stale and their sales drop. If they change things some people say they are ruining everything and others will be temporarily interested, leading to an increase in sales. The die-hard fans will buy a book they hate just for the hopes the status quo will return and then when it does the sales spike and then decline and the cycle repeats itself. Everyone wants new characters but no one buys books with new characters. People say they want diversity but books like Angela are quickly cancelled do to poor sales. The fans want change but they aren't sure what that change looks like. The industry as a whole is struggling right now because fans don't support the books they claim to love. There are only a handful of books from the big 2 that sell well regardless of quality it's because the fans are extremely close-minded in terms of what they want.
Some, like yourself want the books to return to a period before heroes had to be deconstructed to be interesting. It's hard to find a book these days that doesn't make its hero a hypocrite in some way shape or form. For every fan that wants Steve Rogers to be ethically/morally incorruptible there are also those that feel Superman was correct when he snapped Zod's neck or that it was cool when Batman blew those bad guys up. Comic book philosophies, to many, are outdated. The idea that the Joker is goin around killing people all the time and yet Batman hasn't killed him seems nonsensical to some but to others it's about Batman sticking to his code.
We can't act like comics are a business and as such they need a way to market and sell their books to fans with modern ideologies of life and a high degree of cynicism. Who are they supposed to listen to when things die-hards claim is awful sell well. As much as die hard fans claim they hate the new Thor for some reason the sales of that book are way higher that of Thor: God of Thunder. It's hard to say Marvel shouldn't do drastic changes when people seem to be more interested when they do. Long story short they're screwed regardless of what they do.
@sprior93: The writer says he's tired of every black character being forced into the same good anti-stereotype box. Black Panther, Falcon, War-Machine, Cyborg, Jon Stewart etc. all have similar good guy traits. Everyone is afraid of making a lead African American character anything but good because they don't want to be called a racist or someone who perpetuates stereotypes. As and African American I completely understand where the writer is coming from. Mosaic isn't some unrealistic characterization of black people, there are definitely athletes that are self absorbed *****. Why is this somehow considered a bad thing?
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