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#1  Edited By cbishop
@Emperor Gonzo Noir: Yep. That was Deathstroke: Full Cycle.  I had that at one time, but I believe it's out of print now.  Which is why they need to do these trades. :)
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@The Dark Huntress: Suhhhweet! :)
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@Preacherl2k said:
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There is NO MARVEL Sexier than HER! "


Iiiiii don't know about that
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@Jnr6Lil said:

"nice blogs man. really interesting "

Thank you. Much appreciated.

@turoksonofstone said:

" I was thinking how the Medium may have really died with the end of "Newsstand" distribution and the move to the direct market. And now with Pirated comics available along with TPB's, and Marvel/DC losing touch with what is appropriate to charge for a monthly book, The medium has some tough times ahead for sure. "

Nah, moving to direct market didn't kill it. For the distribution system and specialized outlets it created, it actually helped it - we'd have little to no indie industry without it (until the Internet got going, but that was several years after direct market got going). I think the direct market is an artificial system though - it's only sustainable for as long as those involved are willing to cooperate. The direct market was great for Marvel & DC at first, because it gave them a place to get all of their product displayed in one spot, and really get it out there to the customers. Now though, with book chains seeing that trades will sell, and with the Internet out there to help things, why would they want to sustain the direct market (the comic shops)? Would it be totally cruddy of them to do that, since the DM got them where they are? Yep, but I believe that eventually, some corporate number cruncher with no love for comics is going to see how that business can be trimmed by changing their business model, and that will be it.

They're going to see that it's to their advantage, because the end of the LCS would mean the end of their indy competition, as well as those indies that are starting to get larger, like IDW, Oni, DDP, probably Dynamite, and maybe Dark Horse and Image. I think Dark Horse could weather it, and keep up with the trades-only process, but I have serious doubts about Image. Pikahyper pointed out that Archie doesn't do trades (although they have done some) but the fact is, Archie did very well for themselves on the grocery store impulse counters. They've always kept their numbers secret - no one really knows exactly how well they've done - just that they have done well. I imagine they would go back to that model.

I just think it's cold reality that one day, someone in the Big Two will see that it's better for their bottom line to put the rest of the industry out of business, by pulling out of the LCS system, and going with trades-only and bookstore chains. I could be wrong... I'd like to be wrong... but I think it's coming. I honestly don't think about it much, or even often, but when I do think about it, this is what I see happening. <sigh> I owe pikahyper a response to his response, but cannot get to it tonight. So I'm gonna cut this short ("short?") and say adios for now. Adios for now! ;)

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" @cbishop: really the post that all of you are complaining about is two years old and has not been commented on in over a year, Tom brought it back to life, besides it is relavent to the upcoming movie. "

 

<sigh> That's not the point.  If a member had posted this in the forums, it would have been locked, because the two year old thread already exists.  Staff get to repost forum topics as front page articles, and pass it off as "it's on the news page."  That's cheesy, and it's a double standard.  Why not bump the old thread to the front page, if it's now relevant to something?  Give members the thrill of having something on the front page, instead of paying someone to do it again.   At the very least, acknowledge the member's thread in the article - especially once it's pointed out in the comments.
 
Right after this article, Tom posted an article about "Who's the best Robin" - something that appears at least eleven times in the forums (I know, because I posted the links in the comments).  G-Man posted an article the same week about "what are you thankful for," for Thanksgiving, and someone pointed out they had already posted it to the forums.  G-Man literally answered it with "Yeah, but I did it on the NEWS page."  IMO, that's crud. 
 
My issue is really twofold with this: 
1) Tom's original articles are much better than this one and the "best Robin" article.  My personal opinion is that he can do better than to stripmine the forums.  

2) Members have been asked to pay for their memberships, so that the CV staff can get paid, and continue to do the jobs that we love for them to do.  That's great - nothing wrong with it  - people and bills have to be paid.  Thankfully, they've left the option open of continuing in a free membership.  That's great for me, because I don't have fun money in my budget right now (thank goodness for someone else allowing me to use their 'Net access).  Still, I'm onsite, looking around, and trying to figure out if a paid membership is something I want, when I do have fun money.  So far, the only advantage to paid membership that I've seen is getting the podcast a day earlier than free members get to see it - a podcast I have no interest in, either way.  If the rest of what's being offered is rehashed forum topics, why do I want to pay for a membership, when I can see it on the forums for free?  Sell more ads - I'll deal.
 
Okay, there's also a third thing: 
3) For a site full of fans-turned-staff - a self-professed "fan site" - they are flirting with a very dangerous subject, by rehashing someone else's forum topic and blowing off the objections to that usage - plagiarism and intellectual property theft.  Please note that I said "flirting with" and not that they are actually doing this - I can see that this is not their intent, but not everybody will choose to see it that way, as the site goes on. 
 
Comic Vine staff are gaining a professional image on the Web and in the comic community - they are interviewing creators and executives, getting previews to yet-to-be-published materials, and have been credited with at least one set of creators getting together to create their own comic.  As time goes on, if complaints about rehashing forum topics continue to crop up, and continue to be blown off, that's going to get out to the comic community too, and their professional image is going to be called into question.  How many future pros are already members on Comic Vine, that will carry knowledge of these objections into their careers? 
 
As a published comic author, Tom is especially at risk - what if his next project happens to look like something started on CV by someone else?  How many pros or fans will believe it was coincidence, if it's known that he routinely rehashes others' material on Comic Vine, for the news page?  Whether he actually went and looked up topics and reused them, or genuinely, coincidentally came up with it himself, won't matter at that point - that's a stain on the reputation that cannot be undone. 
 
Please note that I'm "what if-ing" here - as far as I know, no user content has been intentionally "stolen" by anyone on staff.  I just think it's flirting with he gray area around that, to rehash these topics.  This is why it's so hard for a writer to break into the industry - comic companies are hesitant to review writing submissions, because "what if something similar appears in our comics later?"  They'd rather avoid the trouble altogether - that's why they prefer you be a pro writer in another field, or self-published, so they have something to review.  Comic Vine's wide open, and has been made that way on purpose, to facilitate the shared info nature of the site, but as such, they have to hold themselves to a higher standard of professionalism, so that members can feel free to share on this site, without fear of their contributions being snatched up and claimed by someone else.   "Higher standard" means they don't snatch up and claim anything as their own that already exists onsite - a standard that they hold the members to already. 
 
In other words, it's simply in their best interest to not rehash forum topics, or to at least acknowledge the pre-existing topics, if they are going to repeat them.
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Nice read, Tom.  I wished for a Tangent ongoing from the first set of one-shots.  I haven't read the JLA arc where CSA trashed it - I hope that's not for good.  As for the CSA universe, they're great characters, but for me, an ongoing would just kind of take away the "special" about them.  I like when they show up in Justice League titles, because you know this is gonna be a throwdown, as the JLA takes on their evil twins.  If they're around all the time, in their own book, the crossovers to butt heads with the JLA would be a bit lackluster.

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@Dark Walker said:
"You better let all the superheroines who have wore heals that, even though mines not wearing heals they can be a very deadly weapon.  As for our girls wearing "dresses" Angelia Jolie proved a girl can fight in a dress. LOL I wanna watch Tomb Raider now. :-D"

Hm, hadn't considered that... do you think that was a full-on fight, or did she keep her dress intact through movie magic?  I know a lot of fem characters wear heels, but they stay intact through comic magic - especially spiked heels - those'd be breaking off every time they got in a big fight.  When I think of "combat," I think of full-on, hardnosed fights, where freedom of movement is desired, not a dress that wraps around the legs.  Dresses/ robes act kind of like capes for artists, helping to show motion, but in a real fight, they'd likely try to find a moment to tear it off to free up their motion.  Sure, I've overthought it some - that's me having fun with it - but LT's character fits the bill for me. :)
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@Amegashita:  Fair enough. :)
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@tonis said:
"actually was going more for Enchantress, but close.If you expect dancing hair though we need more than 2 weeks, I can't in good concience whip out a Medusa I'd be happy with in less :) "

No, I totally see the Enchantress influence.  What I mean is "tress" is a lock of hair, so to me, a character named "Ms. Tress" would have Medusa-like hair powers.  ...It's just the way I think, man. lol
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@daredevil21134: Well actually, I should clarify: the Huntress in the proposed collection above - "Days of Rage" - is Helena Bertinelli.  The Huntress from Dark Knight Daughter is Helena Wayne.  I like the Bertinelli character okay - especially since they've had a chance to flesh her out a little bit more in Birds of Prey, but I loved the Wayne version. It's definitely a matter of perspective.  My first exposure was to the Wayne version.  Yours was to Bertinelli.  It's all good - they're both great characters.