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#1  Edited By CapitolPunishment

Thor gets curb stomped in round #2.

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#2  Edited By CapitolPunishment
@Killemall

Firstly why the 15 years rule? Its not rebooted and its how he has always been shown.

Here's one from 1996


I agree with you, there is no 15 year rule in Marvel. As you know, DC does reboots which completely change most of the characters all at once. On the other hand Marvel is so all over the place with there characters and have really never done a complete reboot they do what people call "rolling retcons". Which basically means what has been consistently shown as a characters abilities and limits for a decent amount of time.is that characters abilities and limits. As you know more than most here Thor is one of those characters that has evolved so much over the decades that we have to use his more recent, consistent showings to determine what he can do. The silver surfer on the other hand has been consistently upgraded over the past decades so aside from poor writing/poor scientific knowledge of the writer at the time it is my opinion that most of his older feats can be applied in battles.
 
 I have to disagree about the scans though, one is just showing him in a cage talking about nano seconds, the other showing him in the micro-verse, again talking about nano seconds. They only show that he is able to think on that time table, he was not reacting to anything combative at those speeds. The last with him chasing the guy with the quantum bands only shows that he can travel faster than 3x light speed, he intercepted the hawk god to a halt in space, he did not engage in combat at those speeds. If they were throwing hands/energy bolts at each other and reacting to them at those speeds that would be impressive. The scan also proves that he cannot preform at thos speeds otherwise he would have been able to analyze Eon's actions in just a nano second which brings us back to the first two scans. What are his limits while working under the nano second clock? If he had no time to figure out anything Eon was doing while sitting there for minutes? Idk, I think the Surfer can react in nano seconds during combat, unfortunately, in my honest opinion  those scans don't show me that. 
 
GL (Hal) has fought the flash while the Flash outright said he was moving faster than light, it takes nano second reaction time to throw down with someone moving ftl. Superman has traded shots with the flash when his HV couldn't keep up and HV = light speed. That may not be the bst example for Supermans speed so I can post some more impressive combat speed feats for Superman if you like but i think it is well established that both he and Hal can react on a nano second level in actual combat. I have yet to see the Surfer do so, however as always, I am open for more of your awesome scans showing this :). Cheers M8
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#3  Edited By CapitolPunishment

Fair my arse, Cameron would wreck her sh1t.

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@isaac_clarke: I'm not sure why you are saying that SMP is not that much stronger than a regular Superman, SBP without the Oan juice, maybe but still no. Hell, even without the juice he was easily overpowering the JLA, GLC and a host of Kryptonions. SMP amped up on Oan juice is a whole different story. He one shot killed earth 15 superman then one shotted that earths Wonderwoman, the entire JLA (watchtower included) one shot that Martian manhunter, then one shot the Earth. That was just one of the many Earth's he wrecked. Monarch was using multiple Supermen as throw away physical punching bags for entertainment and could have killed any of them in an instant and SMP was physically stronger than monarch. In every outing he was stated to be immune to magic, the writers were quite clear on that subject, if they meant "highly resistant" they would have written that instead of saying straight out he was immune to magic on multiple occasions. There are so many showings that state the exact opposite to the claim your trying to make about his strength and his magic resistance. SMP one shot kills Kryptonions, Martians, Amazons, almost anything that he has come across and he is straight up immune to magic to boot, plain and simple. In addition, it was confirmed in final crisis #1 and #7 on panel the universe was destroyed, I know you really don't care for the art work but I've shown you the confirmation scans from final crisis, gave you issue numbers, writers names etc and you conceded to it. I really can't understand why you are pretending that discussion never happened now and revert back to showing the botched drawing from countdown. I know you hate the character but common man...

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#5  Edited By CapitolPunishment

@Erik said:

Stops at Nightwing.

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#6  Edited By CapitolPunishment

@isaac_clarke: When Thor does the hammer twirl isn't it supposed to be spinning at around ftl speeds and also a speed that should be applied as a feat for his hammer and not his combat reaction time?

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@BigCimmerian: A not so well known character named Kinetix was a powerful magic user that has displayed power to transmute entire worlds into what she wants, it was said her power was far beyond the planet level as she had previously absorbed all the magic from an entire alternate universe. Anyhow she tried to transmute SMP into something else using her magic, it didn't do anything to him and she got vaporized for her troubles. Who knows if Mordru was trying to hurt him or not, what do most magic/energy users attack with, they hold out there hands and shoot magic/energy. The fact is Mordru could not hurt him. SMP has been attacked by every level of a magic user and it's been the same result, he is immune. The writers have been very clear on that issue, I have no idea why this even comes up anymore.

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#8  Edited By CapitolPunishment

Why was this bumped? DS curb stomps BA. Last time they were on the same planet BA couldn't even hear the gods that empower him, he was instead hearing Desad and having visions of DS while his powers went to sh1t.

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#9  Edited By CapitolPunishment

@blackadamFTW: The main plot of flash point may have focused on them but it was actually Pandora who made the new 52.

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