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Jesus so this is just another rehash this is Dark Reign all over again. Spencer is not going to do a good job with this, the only bright side to look forward to is once this crap story and mini series wrap we will get an all new all different all bullshit relaunch.

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This looked dumb as hell, I have recorded the first episode and so far even making it threw the first 10 minutes is a chore. It's like they have taken 3 previous CW shows and mashed them together the only new thing here is that it's Archie characters that is it.

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@fables87 said:

Is this series a comedy or a drama?

It's a drama that attempts to add awkward humor to break tension.

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This book wants it both ways but can't have it. You can't frame each issue to be shown in an anxious angst filled way, then try to inject fun or cookiness as well. Depression and PTSD aren't exactly comedy fodder this direction was never a good one for Jen a fun loving character and the humor bits that are supposed to break the tedious downer tone fall flat just like this concept has so far.

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Interesting cover are they actually teasing Winter and Widow getting back together? If so I'm on board.

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Kamala has really become the new Wolverine where she shows up in like 20 books a month. Also this grounded story line for the Guardians is silly and with a relaunch of there series already announced with them in space I guess even Marvel had no faith in it.

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This doesn't seem like a cheap stunt to drive up sales on two books that have cooled off at all....

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Just finished reading this issue, It's clearly marketed for children which is fine, but the bombardment of identity politics at the end isn't. Really odd choice to have a story revolve around a Shield list that is some how sexist because of reasons and forget that Valeria Richards existed because at one point she was 3rd on that very list.

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@stellar421: I think your really reaching to say that the cover is oversexualized. Wasp is just dancing she is in a pose that can easily be done without breaking you spine. In the context the cover is to show that she is a fun light hearted character.

Even when you say female characters are placed in sexy poses a lot, Yeah it was a epidemic in the 90's but not today. If anything today it's been reversed, it's perfectly acceptable to draw male characters in a sexual way and weird sexual poses, I mean Anka is the king of doing that. Yet no one is upset why, because it's a silly thing to get bent out of shape about, Same as is it is for the female characters. Superheroes are meant to be exaggerated, meaning they will have bodies normal men and women could never achieve. So I find it silly people care, if Wasps hips are swinging or that Star Lord has 12 pack abs and is shirtless for no reason.

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@slimebeherit: Moon Girl should be cancelled it make no sense why it's still ongoing when it fails to ship 9000 issues a month. Most books are canned if they can't ship 16 000.

As for this book it will not last long but could be fun. The art looks nice story seems upbeat.

Im well aware of the single issue sales, but my point still stands. A series people thought wouldn't get to double digits, is still chugging along, the same could be true of Wasp.

I suppose it does but it does entail that people throw away what they know about the industry and it's practices when it comes to sales. I don't want Wasp to fail, but when it comes to Moon Girl I do understand why people dislike the book or feel it gets special treatment when books like Mockingbird and Howard the Duck got canned yet shipped double and triple of what Moon Girl or Hell Cat does.

I think in the end it's not always sales figures alone, it's what the editors are willing to go with because they like the characters, like the authors (or the authors are blackmailing them with something) or they have future plans and want the character to be around long enough to factor into those plans.

Maybe that is the case, but it still shocking that Marvel has not one but two books that aren't even in the top 150 books shipped monthly and they are still going strong. I mean Moon Girl just got a soft relaunch to bring in more readers and it still only shipped 10 000.