@boutatakeanl: I didn’t mean that in any rude way, so I’m sorry if you took it like that.
I just meant that you admitted you aren’t as knowledgeable, and yet you seem very certain about the outcome of the fight. That seems kinda odd to me. Daily chimed in when I asked you a question, which is fine, but now you won’t answer because he apparently said everything you would have said, despite not having his knowledge on the matter.
You have always been very reasonable and more than willing to admit you were wrong and/or change your opinion when presented with evidence, which I really respect. All this to say, I have hope that you could see reason, whereas Daily and especially Prof are pretty set in their opinions on the matter, so it’s kinda pointless in that regard.
- Not at all. I hope my response didn't come off as an aggressive defense or anything. I just thought I needed to clarify that.
- Valid. It's a weird situation, ngl. I do feel pretty comfortable with Xemnu and his feats. I do believe, given what I've seen, his raw power outclasses basically every Earth telepath, and I believe the disparity to be pretty big. The scaling just makes sense to me. Hulk's psychic defenses > Jean, Xavier, Emma, etc...'s TP. Xemnu's TP >= Hulk's psychic defenses. I do stand quite firmly on that logic, and maybe I'm giving it too much credit.
On the other hand, I leave the debating to Bagel because he's vying for the team that I am, and I'm nowhere near as capable as he, PR, etc... are. When Koays brought up the supposed fact that Xemnu's feat was against "pre-sorcerer supreme Strange", I was like "damn... that sucks. That feat isn't really that good then". I kinda just accepted it at that point. Then PR claims that Strange was indeed Sorcerer Supreme at that point. I don't be knowing all that. No shot I could have contested that point, yet PR was able to. Similarly, when you brought up that there was a difference between telepathy and hypnotism (enough of a difference to consider), I thought I was cooked. But then Bagel said it was "semantics". Again... no way I would have been able to contest that. I would have just folded. So basically, I'm comfortable just letting him do his thing because I simply lack the knowledge for properly countering. Whenever Bagel or PR countered in their posts, those counters made perfect sense. That's what I meant by, Bagel specifically, covering everything I "would have". I meant to say he covered everything I would have wanted to if I actually knew 0_0 . Same reason I'm high-key ducking Mage. He brings solid feats to the table and I can't do anything but fold as a character I like doesn't actually win the fight (from what I know). In my defense though he be passive aggressive often :( . Yet every time I see PR debate, he catches the context that I totally missed. Because of how frequently I've seen PR do that, I kinda get sceptical of the feats I see, even if they're more than likely valid. So yeah, I'm totally just letting the actual heavyweights fight while I look on from the corner of the Brick team. You throw me in the ring and I'm getting destroyed.
I appreciate that a ton! I respect you for the same reasons + you actually know a bunch. Being honest again, I totally could just be blinded by character bias. I like Xemnu a ton. I like Hulk a ton. Maybe I want them to be in tiers they might not be. PR and Bagel could be wrong. I very well could be wrong. But, being as objective as I can, I do see the logic in Xemnu being a hell of a fight for Jean. I do see the logic of him multitasking a TP fight with her while animating objects around him and taking down some of the other ladies as well. So maybe I'm being a little too firm on my stance, but I genuinely see the reasoning in it. Shoot, honestly I just wanna keep it that way instead of risking being proven wrong XD, but, of course, I'll accept reasoning if it contradicts what I know/goes against the guys I like. I know PR can be a pain to debate (respectfully to him). He is pretty dead set on his stances, and I don't agree with a fair chunk of his takes. Again, that might just be character bias again. Maybe I don't want to see guys like Mysterio and Dr. Octopus working through 6 rounds of Krakoan dudes, but I could be wrong. I will, however, say I haven't felt the same with Bagel, that I've felt with Prof. Bagel seems very objective and I thoroughly agree with his responses, most likely cause I haven't experienced having an opposing opinion to him and him being very dead set on it. Because of that, I'm fine with him debating this while I sit it out. Maybe I see more logic in PR and Bagel's responses because they're for the team that I like, so I want to see that logic more. I'd certainly hope not, but I did skim some Koays parts that I thought might be tight for me to defend against. In my defense, it took me over an hour to catch up on this gem of a thread just barely skimming 0_0 so that's a thing. Rant over. I'll try my best to be objective. If I feel, between you and Bagel or Koays and PR, etc..., that you made better points and your logic was better, I will definitely change my opinion, despite the pill being hard to swallow. And I'll consciously be objective about it.
TL;DR - I'm un poco sus 0_o and Grammarly going off with the underlining >:(
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